# New "Legion of Super- Heros Comic" #1 - Pee-U!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [January 2, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658 "2005-01-02T05:19:05Z")
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### Author:  [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/1 "2005-01-02T05:19:05Z")
WTF!! What is this stupidity?! Everything’s… _different!_
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### Author:  [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/2 "2005-01-02T06:12:53Z")
Well, it _is_ a reboot.
I, having very limited experience with the Legion (I have a few issues of Legionaires from a long time ago, plus one issue of the last Legion series just because they fight robot clones of the JLA or something), liked the first issue of the new series a lot. And that’s after thinking that the whole “teens causing a ruckus” concept sounded really lame when I first read it.
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### Author:  [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/3 "2005-01-02T13:22:37Z")
Much as I hate saying goodbye to old friends, this is what should have happened in 1984. Since that day, since Byrne made his decision about no Superboy, things have been terminally screwed up. You can see a direct path from that decision to Zero Hour, and beyond.
Trust Mark Waid. He knows the Legion. He has a plan. Everything is different… and that’s good. But the Legion will survive, and thrive.
LLL
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### Author:  [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/4 "2005-01-02T16:14:39Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Much as I hate saying goodbye to old friends, this is what should have happened in 1984. Since that day, since Byrne made his decision about no Superboy, things have been terminally screwed up. You can see a direct path from that decision to Zero Hour, and beyond.
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> Trust Mark Waid. He knows the Legion. He has a plan. Everything is different… and that’s good. But the Legion will survive, and thrive.
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> LLL
The story line of adult/teen wars and “teens causing a ruckus” as ShyGuy aptly puts it was like watching sausage being made. The adults perspective as written makes absolutely no f\*\*king sense whatsoever, and is storyboarded and plotted in the most idiotic and ham handed way possible. It’s just plain _stupid_, and stupid comics are annoying.
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### Author:  [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/5 "2005-01-02T16:32:29Z")
Wait. And. See.
Trust me. This is Mark Waid. Remember, the guy writing the Flash all these years, the guy who invented Hypertime, the guy who took the Legion into his comic and made it darn near Flash Family as well as Superman?
The guy who edited Who’s Who? Who’s read darn near the entire DC collected volumes? I even think he’s the one who found the 1930s invention of K-Metal in the comic where Superman reveals his identity to Lois Lane.
This is the beginning. This is a _new_ beginning. The beginning of a story. We’ve been given a new future. We’ve been shown it _is_ different from the one we had before. We had to get slapped in the face a bit, just to make it clear. It’s part of the dynamic of storytelling.
Issue 3, things change.
Give it six issues. You can do that, right?
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### Author:  [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/6 "2005-01-02T16:45:58Z")
I should also note that another thing that makes me wary about this series is that one thing I _do_ know about the Legion is that, at least lately, it’s had a tendency to be rebooted a lot. I don’t want to get invested in this continuity if DC is going to wipe it out of existence in a year.
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### Author:  [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/7 "2005-01-02T18:09:19Z")
Well, that is the problem with a series involving the future. But the truth is… it _hasn’t_ been rebooted a lot. Half-rebooted once at Zero Hour, but… even then, not really a reboot. This is the first full one… well, ever. Since before Crisis.
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### Author:  [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/8 "2005-01-03T14:50:10Z")
The Zero Hour Re-boot was a real re-boot, **E-Sabbath**. When you talk about t a half-reboot you might be thinking of the 5-year-gap that started in the first issue of the 1989 Legion of Super-Heroes series. That series took the same characters from earlier continuity, but the story opened “Five Years Later” and the characters were much darker as a result of whatever had happened in the previous years.
Zero Hour completely rebooted the Legion, re-starting with Garth, Imra and Cos (who had never met before) rescuing R.J. Brande from terrorists.
–Cliffy
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/9 "2005-01-03T15:13:15Z")
I suspect Astro doesn’t like my Comic Discussion Threads. :dubious:
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### Author:  [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/10 "2005-01-05T15:33:56Z")
Cliffy, it was only _half_ a real reboot, because, well… the characters were the same as the Young Legion in the 5YG. They were rebooted, but they weren’t reconsidered.
That make any sense?
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### Author:  [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-legion-of-super-heros-comic-1-pee-u/282658/11 "2005-01-05T18:22:40Z")
Then this is only a half-reboot, too, 'cuz it’s all the same characters as well. (And I’ll betcha $5 Jeckie ain’t a snake this time around.)
–Cliffy