# New “Lord of the Rings “ movies coming! (2023 announcement) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 24, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272 "2023-02-24T02:35:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/1 "2023-02-24T02:35:19Z")
> **[New ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movies Set at Warner Bros.](https://variety.com/2023/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-new-movies-warner-bros-1235533672/?fbclid=IwAR3-d0DBrHeZw6PEmouv442FPQzyQLi_jjPAv5YhQf3RQSgt3KkKJTWBNW4)** > > Warner Bros. Pictures is revamping the “Lord of the Rings” film franchise. On a Thursday earnings call, Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav announced that newly-installed studio lea… One cannot simply just sell the rights to the Lord of the rings to a Swedish intellectual property conglomerate (and not expect consequences). Well, then. Very little information at the moment, but we shall see. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/2 "2023-02-24T03:12:12Z")
Money grab. Now remaking the Hobbit correctly would be excellent. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/3 "2023-02-24T03:44:20Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Now remaking the Hobbit correctly would be excellent. I don’t really think _The Hobbit_ has to be remade; just edit Jackson’s trilogy down into a single film. At the bottom of the linked article: > [@](#): > > The musical “The Color Purple” will close out the ear Please tell me it’ll be a Disney-style cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/4 "2023-02-24T04:08:17Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Please tell me it’ll be a Disney-style cartoon. I can’t tell if you’re making a joke about the word _ear_, or actually asking the question, but…the film will be based on the very successful musical that’s based on the book and first film. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/5 "2023-02-24T04:12:45Z")
This seems ill-conceived. With negative reactions to both _The Hobbit_ and _Rings Of Power_, I am not sure this will be a guaranteed money-spinner. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/6 "2023-02-24T05:40:43Z")
So Middle-earth is a franchise. Of course it is. Based on that story, they are now turning it into something that sits comfortably alongside superhero movies. All I can say, after watching parts of The Hobbit trilogy and last summer’s Amazon mess, is ugh. I am truly now Bored of the Rings (copywrite a couple of guys in 1969). I didn’t think it was possible, but as far as I’m concerned, Tolkien crapola can take a running leap. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/7 "2023-02-24T07:01:48Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > With negative reactions to […] _Rings Of Power_ 83% favourable rating on RT, Amazon Prime’s most watched series ever, renewed up to at least Season 3. The “negative reactions” are a failed backlash narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/8 "2023-02-24T07:45:01Z")
They are only beginning to tap the pool of available power jeweler items. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/9 "2023-02-24T10:00:31Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Please tell me it’ll be a Disney-style cartoon. Set to Prince’s back catalogue. As for re-adapting Tolkien, while the Peter Jackson films may not be perfect in every way, they’re a high bar to top. With so many other literary properties available to adapt (_Elric of Melniboné_, _The Dying Earth_, _Ringworld_, _Patternmaster_, et cetera) what is the obsession with extracting maximum creative juice out of Tolkien, who frankly wasn’t much of a narrativist anyway? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/10 "2023-02-24T11:16:45Z")
Given the deathly dull, sprawling, incoherent mess that was “rings of power” I think going back to a simple story told on an epic scale could be a winner. The back catalogue of material that the film rights could tap into are rich indeed. Given the right creative direction and a firm focus on storytelling I’d definitely be interested. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/11 "2023-02-24T12:10:07Z")
News on TORN: > **[Return of the Rings! Warner Bros renews LOTR film rights with new movies on...](https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2023/02/23/116180-return-of-the-rings-warner-bros-renews-lotr-rights-with-more-movies-on-the-way/)** > > Warner Bros Discovery confirm a long term deal has been reached with new owners Embracer Groups that will see multiple Middle-earth theatrical movies in the future. > Studio heads of WB confirms they will never remake the heralded trilogy, but continue to expand the Legendarium: Statement from PJ et al: > “Warner Brothers and Embracer have kept us in the loop every step of the way,” the Oscar-winning trio said. “We look forward to speaking with them further to hear their vision for the franchise moving forward.” News to me is there will be an anime _The War of the Rohirrim_ is coming in 2024 Brian ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/12 "2023-02-24T12:40:22Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@GuanoLad](#): > > > > With negative reactions to […] _Rings Of Power_ > > 83% favourable rating on RT, Amazon Prime’s most watched series ever, renewed up to at least Season 3. The “negative reactions” are a failed backlash narrative. No, there were plenty of legitimate, honest negative reactions—ranging from people who hated it to people who were disappointed that it didn’t live up to its potential. Do I need to link to the thread where we discussed it? Just the other day, I ran across a video speculating [“Was the Rings of Power script AI generated?”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVzZLPXJKB8&t=427s&ab_channel=LandofLight) > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > With so many other literary properties available to adapt (_Elric of Melniboné_, _The Dying Earth_, _Ringworld_, _Patternmaster_, et cetera) what is the obsession with extracting maximum creative juice out of Tolkien Because nowadays all movies have to be part of existing franchises, or based on intellectual property that audiences will already be familiar with. (For evidence, see the list of additional upcoming projects at the end of the linked article.) (This is not to say that I, personally, don’t agree with your point of view, just that it’s not the way Hollywood thinks.) > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Tolkien, who frankly wasn’t much of a narrativist anyway? So what (if you’re right, which I think is debatable)? The narrative doesn’t have to come from Tolkien, just the background/world. Personally, I have mixed feelings. Part of me leans toward @Roderick_Femm’s point of view, part of me toward @Novelty_Bobble’s. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/13 "2023-02-24T13:13:25Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > No, there were plenty of legitimate, honest negative reactions—ranging from people who hated it to people who were disappointed that it didn’t live up to its potential. Do I need to link to the thread where we discussed it? Well quite, I’m not sure why people insist the generally lukewarm reaction to it must be part of a bigger issue. Compared to other series I watched last year I found it to be poor. I’ve yet to meet anyone in real life who raved about it. “fine” is about the right level. You know, time passed, things happened…colours, shapes and movement, that sort of thing. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Just the other day, I ran across a video speculating [“Was the Rings of Power script AI generated?”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVzZLPXJKB8&t=427s&ab_channel=LandofLight) I just asked chatGPT to generate lines of dialogue in the style of “the rings of power” and I have a sneaking suspicion that might be true! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/14 "2023-02-24T13:33:40Z")
> Studio heads of WB confirms they will never remake the heralded trilogy Well dayum. Sure, another try could wind up being worse than Peter Jackson’s movie version of the trilogy, but there was plenty of room for it to be done better. Enough time has passed for someone to give it another try. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/15 "2023-02-24T13:42:54Z")
I’m waiting for Tom Bombadil, The Early Years. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/16 "2023-02-24T13:51:18Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > No, there were plenty of legitimate, honest negative reactions There were negative reactions, yes. But when people phrasing it as “With negative reactions to […] _Rings Of Power_”, not “with some negative reactions”, the implication is clearly that the _overall_ reaction was negative, and that it was a flop. This is not the case. That is what I mean by a narrative driven by failed backlash. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Do I need to link to the thread where we discussed it? Do you think I don’t recall a thread I was quite active in? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/17 "2023-02-24T13:52:43Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Do you think I don’t recall a thread I was quite active in? If I remember right, not only were you quite active in it, but you were far more favorably disposed toward “Rings of Power” than almost everyone else in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/18 "2023-02-24T13:58:22Z")
I loved it, yes. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/19 "2023-02-24T14:03:44Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > what is the obsession with extracting maximum creative juice out of Tolkien, who frankly wasn’t much of a narrativist anyway? It’s profitable. People will watch mediocre-to-crappy stuff like Rings of Power, Loki, and The Book of Boba Fett _because they know the franchises_. It’s an extremely low risk investment, and networks and production studios are businesses. Producing a TV series about Patternmaster is very high risk, because most people have never heard of it and they might not tune in even if the show is good. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272/20 "2023-02-24T14:05:27Z")
Best thing I can say for **Rings of Power** was that it was far better than **House of Dragons**. But it was a lot less fun than **Willow**. Ring had some good stuff, some frustrating stuff but it was watchable. HOD was just boring. So boring. No characters of interest either. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-lord-of-the-rings-movies-coming-2023-announcement/980272.md?page=2)