# New Mallard aircraft? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 13, 2014, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239 "2014-02-13T11:31:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/1 "2014-02-13T11:31:37Z")
Way cool if this can happen, as the Mallard is one of my favorite aircraft: > **[Joe Frakes Initiating Plans To Restart Mallard Program | Aero-News Network](http://aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=96d9dd04-3b40-4b6c-a843-e46da3fe2b06)** > > Industry Veteran Sam Jantzen To Lead Reintroduction Of All-New Turbine Mallard Design > > A new version of the Grumman Mallard may soon be fly| Published: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 | Aero-News Network Though the website isn’t even up: > **[All-New Turbine Mallard - Fly Everywhere:Offered by Frakes Aviation](http://www.mallardaircraft.com/)** > > The all-new Turbine Mallard, Spacious and modern, it will take you just about anywhere, with multi-mission functionality for utility, commuter airlines, special mission, corporate and VIP transport. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/2 "2014-02-13T13:06:48Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Way cool if this can happen, as the Mallard is one of my favorite aircraft: > [Joe Frakes Initiating Plans To Restart Mallard Program | Aero-News Network](http://aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=96d9dd04-3b40-4b6c-a843-e46da3fe2b06) > > Though the website isn’t even up: > [http://www.mallardaircraft.com/](http://www.mallardaircraft.com/) > > Brian I could see this being very useful for party transport to remote lake destinations set up as getaways or retreats. I remember hearing third-hand about small spots like that which were remote and pristine in AK back in the day. (so I’m guess there’d be a Huge demand in Canada, given the sheer number of pristine lakes) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/3 "2014-02-14T21:51:36Z")
Website is up - some specs and pictures. Brian ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/4 "2014-02-14T22:23:34Z")
Sweet! I got my multi engine, sea rating in an old Mallard waay back in the day. The new engines would certainly provide some extra performance and reliability, but a Mallard is still slow. I used to run down to the Bahamas for the weekend all the time in my MU-2P. It takes a while to do that at only 200mph! A new Mallard would nice, but it’s more of a short route plane. For anyone who lives in lake country, or along the coast, this would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/5 "2014-02-15T03:56:27Z")
At first I thought BFD they’re throwing turbines on a Mallard. Already been done. But they’re going into production building them from scratch? How could there possibly be a market for them? Wow. May they go forth and profit. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/6 "2014-02-15T16:20:39Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > How could there possibly be a market for them? My thoughts exactly. There are two piston-engine Mallards on [controller.com](http://controller.com) right now, for $1.5 million and $1.6 million. DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otters have asking prices of up to $3.2 million or more. I can’t see a brand-new, PT-6 powered, Mallard having an MSRP of less than $4 million. So that cuts out almost all private owners. A lot of pilots want one, but few can afford one. A fair number of people have the means to buy one, but aren’t interested in airplanes. I imagine that there would be a market in Canada and Alaska as **Count Bluche** said, or perhaps in the Caribbean, for Part 135 type operators. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/7 "2014-03-11T04:55:31Z")
> [@ducati](#): > > I used to run down to the Bahamas for the weekend all the time in my MU-2P. It’s a pity Lear, Ilyushin, Avro and Ryan never produced a joint-venture aircraft. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/8 "2014-03-11T05:20:46Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > It’s a pity Lear, Ilyushin, Avro and Ryan never produced a joint-venture aircraft. Really? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/9 "2014-03-11T11:05:53Z")
This is the sort of aircraft to which I’d love to retire. Just spend my days flying round the world. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/10 "2014-03-11T13:24:14Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > It’s a pity Lear, Ilyushin, Avro and Ryan never produced a joint-venture aircraft. You’re not allowed to call another poster a liar, however obliquely. No warning issued. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/11 "2014-03-11T14:51:32Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > You’re not allowed to call another poster a liar, however obliquely. > > No warning issued. > > **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator Too oblique for me to see. I read it as possibly being envious because of the Lear reference, but the other companies don’t have the connotations of wealth that Lear does. (And Ryan went out of business in 1969 and hadn’t built a civilian airplane since the '40s, though Teledyne acquired them and they existed until 1999.) Or it was a sly way of saying that those companies _did_ enter into joint ventures. I don’t see anyone calling anyone a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/12 "2014-03-11T20:08:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/13 "2014-03-11T20:16:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Too oblique for me to see. > > I read it as possibly being envious because of the Lear reference, but the other companies don’t have the connotations of wealth that Lear does. (And Ryan went out of business in 1969 and hadn’t built a civilian airplane since the '40s, though Teledyne acquired them and they existed until 1999.) > > Or it was a sly way of saying that those companies _did_ enter into joint ventures. > > I don’t see anyone calling anyone a liar. Read the initials of the aircraft companies mentioned, in order. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/14 "2014-03-11T20:47:07Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Read the initials of the aircraft companies mentioned, in order. Ah. I see now. Too subtle for me. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/15 "2014-03-11T21:02:15Z")
Too bad the Mallard doesn’t use canards. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/16 "2014-03-12T15:51:29Z")
But then you’d have to duck out of the way every time you walked up to the flightdeck… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-mallard-aircraft/681239/17 "2014-03-12T17:48:30Z")
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