# New "Man Of Steel" Superman Movie Teaser trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 22, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031 "2012-07-22T08:43:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/41 "2012-07-23T17:00:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Alessan > Well, it’s not as if we’ve seen it since 1978. > [@Lobot](#): > > Unless you count 10 seasons of _Smallville_. And 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/42 "2012-07-23T17:11:36Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > “No. [chuckles] Not that. The other thing. Come on, I know it’s dangling on the tip of your tongue. Let me hear it just once, please?” > “Superman will never-” > **“WRONG!”** As… not good… as Superman Returns was, that scene was pure awesome. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/43 "2012-07-23T17:25:19Z")
> [@Victor\_Charlie](#): > > And 2006. Superman Returns wasn’t an origin story. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/44 "2012-07-23T17:43:37Z")
I’m just thankful Luthor isn’t the villain again in this one. Oh, and it appears they’ve taken another direction in casting Perry White, which I like. But not too sure how I feel about the casting of Lois Lane. We shall see… ---
**Author:** ![Ashley\_Pomeroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@Ashley\_Pomeroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashley_Pomeroy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/45 "2012-07-23T17:44:38Z")
> [@Lobot](#): > > Donner’s _Superman_ was note-perfect Dunno. I bought it on DVD a while back after having only seen it once, when I was young - they always seemed to show _Superman II_ on the TV, never the original. For the first three-quarters it _is_ note-perfect; Krypton is stunning to look at, the whole sequence with Kent growing up amidst an endless golden cornfield is epic, the helicopter rescue is just super enough to be spectacular but not so overpowering that you can’t relate to it. Christopher Reeve is the part. He’s basically the Magical Positive Gay Stereotype - keeps himself fit, polite, doesn’t fart in bed, good taste in interior decor- without actually being gay (that we can tell (not that there’s anything wrong with that)). But the film turns to shit when Lex Luthor and Otis appear. People deride _Superman II_ for being camp and silly, but _Superman_ is the film where Miss Teschmacher (a) dresses up as Marilyn Monroe in order to stop a nuclear missile convoy, by fainting in the road (b) twice (c) and there’s a comedy bit where Larry Hagman, as a stuffy military man, orders his men to get out of the way so that he can give her CPR. That bit’s in the first film. _Superman II_ doesn’t continually have Lex Luthor fiddle with his hairpiece. It doesn’t have effing Otis and “Otisberg”, and Superman turning back time in order to save one woman. Instead it has three genuinely nasty villains and a seemingly hopeless predicament for our hero. The ending feels arbritrary - Superman gets his powers back _just like that_ - but no more arbitrary than _reversing the flow of time_). _Superman_ is basically great until the actual plot kicks in. Awesome start, weak ending, a bit like _Batman Begins_. I realise they needed Gene Hackman on board in order to get funding, but the writers really needed to come up with a genuine _challenge_ for Superman, or something for him to do. Perhaps he could have confronted the ghosts of his past; disapproval from his parents, for example, something that would show him finally becoming an Earthman and deciding to spend the rest of his days with us. And not Gene Hackman blowing up California. I don’t care if Gene Hackman blows up California, I’ve never been there. Seriously, Gene, if you want to blow up California, _be my guest_. You’ve retired from acting, what are you working on, eh? Up to something, I’ll bet. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/46 "2012-07-23T17:50:55Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > I’ve seen the Comic Con footage. Trust me. There’s big, BIG action. Does he actually fight something? Something big and strong? Or is he just playing fireman again? Not that I don’t like it when Supes rescues the odd crashing plane or derailed train, but I want him punching things, too. I hate to say it, but the 2006 film actually would have been better if he had fought a giant mechanical spider. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/47 "2012-07-23T18:37:30Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Does he actually fight something? Something big and strong? Or is he just playing fireman again? Not that I don’t like it when Supes rescues the odd crashing plane or derailed train, but I want him punching things, too. I hate to say it, but the 2006 film actually would have been better if he had fought a giant mechanical spider. He fights. Someone like him but bigger. Zod most likely. They only show flashes of it, but you get the sense of how massive a battle it is. Buildings collapsing and such. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/48 "2012-07-23T18:54:35Z")
Is it filmed in Instagram? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/49 "2012-07-23T19:05:10Z")
Are they going to use the same title in Russia? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/50 "2012-07-23T19:43:17Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Well, it’s not as if we’ve seen it since 1978. Every human on earth is born with the ancestral knowledge of Superman’s origin. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/51 "2012-07-23T19:45:53Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Are they going to use the same title in Russia? Yes, but they’ll have to use CGI to add the mustache. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/52 "2012-07-23T19:52:30Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > FWIW I also thought the Trailer was a little arty and the images of sea fishing… confusing (in fact the kids behind me at the showing of the trailer during The Dark Knight Rises said, “Is this Aquaman?” until it became clear who it was.) but I thought the same for The Dark Knight Rises and was proven wrong so I will reserve judgement. Also the clip of Superman flying was pretty bad ass. 🙂 Confusing, yes! I watched the trailer on YouTube, and I had to check to make sure I wasn’t watching an advertisement for the next season of _Deadliest Catch_. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/53 "2012-07-23T20:34:54Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > He fights. Someone like him but bigger. Zod most likely. They only show flashes of it, but you get the sense of how massive a battle it is. Buildings collapsing and such. Zod’s overdone. Doomsday! Or better - Darkseid… ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/54 "2012-07-23T20:45:08Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > It’s a year-in-advance trailer, so I don’t put much stock in it. But what the hell is the fishing boat? I’m not sure, but I think Clark does some crab boat work on his way to the Fortress of Solitude. ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/55 "2012-07-23T20:49:10Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Superman Returns wasn’t an origin story. Ah, didn’t catch that they were only talking about origins. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/56 "2012-07-23T22:10:33Z")
> [@Ashley\_Pomeroy](#): > > But the film turns to shit when Lex Luthor and Otis appear. People deride _Superman II_ for being camp and silly, but _Superman_ is the film where Miss Teschmacher (a) dresses up as Marilyn Monroe in order to stop a nuclear missile convoy, by fainting in the road (b) twice (c) and there’s a comedy bit where Larry Hagman, as a stuffy military man, orders his men to get out of the way so that he can give her CPR. That bit’s in the first film. I had no problem with any of that. The only questionable scene, IMHO, is “Can you read my mind?” Where things go completely off the rails is the 100% Lester film _Superman III_, where slapstick abounds and nothing is taken seriously (except for the nightmare fuel of the cyborg transformation scene). I haven’t seen Lester’s _Superman II_ in about 30 years, but the reconstructed Donner cut leads me to believe it would have been fine, had Donner completed it. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/57 "2012-07-23T23:34:49Z")
I rewatched Superman (1978) yesterday as a result of this thread and while I think the portrayal of Lex kind of dates it for modern audiences who are used to the Corporate Shark version of the character, I found it just as good as I remembered (I decided the “Can you Read my Mind” part was a good time to go for a snack :)) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/58 "2012-07-23T23:37:43Z")
> [@Lobot](#): > > I had no problem with any of that. The only questionable scene, IMHO, is “Can you read my mind?” I don’t like the scene where Luthor figures out kryptonite. He makes huge leaps of logic to end up at an absolute fact that Supes himself didn’t even know. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/59 "2012-07-23T23:52:38Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I don’t like the scene where Luthor figures out kryptonite. He makes huge leaps of logic to end up at an absolute fact that Supes himself didn’t even know. Oh yeah, that’s a bit iffy, but I see kryptonite as being kind of nonsensical anyway. It’s basically a cheat to make Superman have a weakness (invented for the radio serial, no less) so I’m forgiving of that. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031/60 "2012-07-23T23:56:17Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > I’ve seen the Comic Con footage. Trust me. There’s big, BIG action. These are _movie trailers_, we’re talking about, though. Things that are supposed to build excitement so that people want to go see the movie. Relying on someone bored by these trailers to hear from someone else that an entirely _other_ trailer (shown to limited audiences moreover) make the movie look entirely different _is not a winning marketing strategy_. In fact, that’s pretty much what the **John Carter** marketing strategy was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-superman-movie-teaser-trailer/629031.md?page=4)