# New Man of Steel Trailer - Fate of the Planet

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**Created:** [May 22, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077 "2013-05-22T23:08:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/1 "2013-05-22T23:08:44Z")

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New trailer for Man of Steel:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fVyFPCc5uJ4/maxresdefault.jpg "Man of Steel Official Trailer - Fate Of Your Planet (2013) - Russell Crowe, Henry Cavill Movie HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyFPCc5uJ4)

I was not at all interested in this movie after the last one a few years ago. Superman is also my least favorite superhero. But the last 2 trailers now have me stoked to see this movie! This may be heresy but I think I may like this one better than Iron Man and Into Darkness for popcorn summer flicks this year

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/2 "2013-05-23T03:42:47Z")

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Wow! I haven’t read much about it, so this is the first time I’ve seen that the gist of the story is Zod looking for Superman on the Earth. Now those scenes of him shackled & surrounded by military guards make sense. Does this mean that he doesn’t even reveal himself at all until Zod shows up? That also makes sense, plot-wise and ‘real-world’ logic-wise.

Can’t say I’ve been much of a fan of \*\*\*any \*\*\*of the Marvel films, they’re just too comic book geeky/silly. The only one I could take seriously was Nolan’s Batman films (and Burton’s first two). Heck I even liked Superman Returns, for what it was…

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/3 "2013-05-23T12:10:32Z")

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This certainly looks better than the prior trailers of Superman as indecisive wuss, dealing with existential problems.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/4 "2013-05-23T12:30:13Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> New trailer for Man of Steel:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyFPCc5uJ4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyFPCc5uJ4)
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> I was not at all interested in this movie after the last one a few years ago. Superman is also my least favorite superhero. But the last 2 trailers now have me stoked to see this movie! This may be heresy but I think I may like this one better than Iron Man and Into Darkness for popcorn summer flicks this year

I"ll withhold judgement on that until Kick-Ass 2 comes out. Superman Returns was so bad that is unlikely I’ll see the new one unless people are just blown away and I become curious.

> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Can’t say I’ve been much of a fan of \*\*\*any \*\*\*of the Marvel films, they’re just too comic book geeky/silly. The only one I could take seriously was Nolan’s Batman films ( **and Burton’s first two** ). Heck I even liked Superman Returns, for what it was…

To me, Burton’s were always silly, just a dark kind of silly - which, if you think about it, has always pretty much been his specialty. No one seems to have gotten the blend of serious/silly right since the Donner Superman movie. The Marvel films work because they throw aspirations for mixing in some gritty reality out the window and shoot a comic book.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/5 "2013-05-23T12:51:03Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> No one seems to have gotten the blend of serious/silly right since the Donner Superman movie.

I feel that right there was the whole problem with _Superman Returns_. Singer tried to be Donner, and failed.

But as a Superman fan, I’m really excited to see this one. I’ve been trying to stay unspoiled, but some of the concepts emerging from the trailers look like an interesting new take–such as Lois trying to track Clark long before he became “Superman.” It’s hard to mess too much with the Superman story because (and I can say this because I’m a rational human being, even though Superman is my _favorite ever_) Superman is honestly kinda boring.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/6 "2013-05-23T13:02:16Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Can’t say I’ve been much of a fan of \*\*\*any \*\*\*of the Marvel films, they’re just too comic book geeky/silly. The only one I could take seriously was Nolan’s Batman films (and Burton’s first two).

Batman isn’t Marvel.

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/7 "2013-05-23T15:36:04Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> …(and Burton’s first two) …

So, uh, that’d be the one with Danny DeVito’s army of penguins with missile launchers strapped to their backs? You’re right, that’s not silly at all.

If _Man of Steel_ lives up to the trailers, it’s going to kill it.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/8 "2013-05-23T15:49:43Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> It’s hard to mess too much with the Superman story because (and I can say this because I’m a rational human being, even though Superman is my _favorite ever_) Superman is honestly kinda boring.

When Aaron Sorkin came up with “The West Wing,” the original concept called for never showing the President. As it neared production, they started thinking “okay, we’ll at least need someone for the occasional cameo.” If you’ve seen the pilot, you’ll note the POTUS didn’t appear until the final act to pretty much make a sweeping pronouncement that resolved the conflicts. But Sheen made such a strong impact that the focus shifted completely and the role was made a fixture.

The original concept would work for Superman. The real story is always what leads up to the appearance of the guy in tights, or the impact around his very existence. “Lois and Clark” knew this. “Smallville” knew this, early on. Heck, Donner knew this - Superman doesn’t show for the first hour and a half and the movie is still interesting and entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/9 "2013-05-23T15:56:06Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> The original concept would work for Superman. The real story is always what leads up to the appearance of the guy in tights, or the impact around his very existence. “Lois and Clark” knew this. “Smallville” knew this, early on. Heck, Donner knew this - Superman doesn’t show for the first hour and a half and the movie is still interesting and entertaining.

Exactly. Put simply, Superman fixes things, but the story is really in seeing how they got broken.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/10 "2013-05-23T16:19:24Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> When Aaron Sorkin came up with “The West Wing,” the original concept called for never showing the President. As it neared production, they started thinking “okay, we’ll at least need someone for the occasional cameo.” If you’ve seen the pilot, you’ll note the POTUS didn’t appear until the final act to pretty much make a sweeping pronouncement that resolved the conflicts. But Sheen made such a strong impact that the focus shifted completely and the role was made a fixture.
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> The original concept would work for Superman. The real story is always what leads up to the appearance of the guy in tights, or the impact around his very existence. “Lois and Clark” knew this. “Smallville” knew this, early on. Heck, Donner knew this - Superman doesn’t show for the first hour and a half and the movie is still interesting and entertaining.

I suspect he takes a really long time to put the tights on in this movie as well.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/11 "2013-05-23T18:14:32Z")

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Looks like lots of bad stuff happening on earth. No problem though, Supe can just fly around and around the planet, reversing time so everything is okay again.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/12 "2013-05-25T00:45:55Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Batman isn’t Marvel.

Yeah I know. I also knew that someone would _ **have** _ to point that out, but I wrote it like that anyway! 😃

> [@FlyingDragonFan](#):
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> So, uh, that’d be the one with Danny DeVito’s army of penguins with missile launchers strapped to their backs? You’re right, that’s not silly at all.

Sure, but DeVito’s genuinely sadistic, nose-biting-off, child-murdering-plan villain made up for it (as did Christopher Walken being, well, Christopher Walken). In fact _Batman Returns_ was so dark, that’s why the studio fired Burton from the third one. And look what that gave us.

> [@epbrown01](#):
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> No one seems to have gotten the blend of serious/silly right since the Donner Superman movie.

But the thing is, the Donner film _wasn’t_ silly. It had some humor, but he wisely stopped at outright silliness. All the silliest stuff in _Superman II_ was because of second director Richard Lester, who replaced Donner after he was fired for not making it silly enough! And, once again, look what that gave us (III and IV!)

I maintain that the recent Marvel films’ silliness mostly works because the big-budget special effects distract from it enough (though not for me).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/13 "2013-05-25T15:22:59Z")

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Any word on how Zod came to survive, and to make his way to Earth? It doesn’t look like they’re going with the “released from the Phantom Zone” angle with this one.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/14 "2013-05-25T15:43:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Any word on how Zod came to survive, and to make his way to Earth? It doesn’t look like they’re going with the “released from the Phantom Zone” angle with this one.

From the trailer, it looks like they’re going with “Zod was off-planet with a spaceship and an army when the planet exploded.”

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/15 "2013-05-25T15:52:46Z")

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Or more intriguingly, that Krypton wasn’t destroyed at all, but rather conquered by Zod.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/16 "2013-05-25T16:01:44Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Or more intriguingly, that Krypton wasn’t destroyed at all, but rather conquered by Zod.

Ohhhhhhh, hadn’t thought of that. Kinda destroys the whole “Last Son of Krypton” theme though.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/17 "2013-05-25T17:00:05Z")

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Well, maybe Krypton can be seen as an ideal as much as an actual planet.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/18 "2013-05-25T17:52:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Any word on how Zod came to survive, and to make his way to Earth? It doesn’t look like they’re going with the “released from the Phantom Zone” angle with this one.

There’s been a bit of ‘prequel’ material put out already. According to those, the prisoners are sent into the Phantom Zone on a prison ship, which they eventually conquer and escape the Zone with.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/19 "2013-05-26T00:01:53Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> There’s been a bit of ‘prequel’ material put out already. According to those, the prisoners are sent into the Phantom Zone on a prison ship, which they eventually conquer and escape the Zone with.

Yeah, because Zod must still have been \*sentenced \*there by Jor-El else why would he be going to such great lengths to get revenge on his son.

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**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-man-of-steel-trailer-fate-of-the-planet/659077/20 "2013-05-26T02:54:21Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> New trailer for Man of Steel:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyFPCc5uJ4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyFPCc5uJ4)
> 
> I was not at all interested in this movie after the last one a few years ago. Superman is also my least favorite superhero. But the last 2 trailers now have me stoked to see this movie! This may be heresy but I think I may like this one better than Iron Man and Into Darkness for popcorn summer flicks this year

Least favorite? Wow. He’s had plenty of great stories and arcs over the years. You seriously characters like, say, Jubilee over him?

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