# new member going straight to the pit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312 "2019-02-11T00:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/1 "2019-02-11T00:58:51Z")
I’ve read these boards from time to time over the years. Forgot about The Dope until recently. Don’t know what reminded me of all the great discussions that happen here, I have been browising for about a month. My brother in law once said, “If you can think of it, someone else already has.” That was in the contex of “inventing” things. I’ve “invented” a lot of things over the years, but they already had them (what movie was that from, I know some of you know). Well, on this forum, regarding all the topics being discussed, before I can even post something to make my point, someone else has already done so, better than I can. So I will probably most be an observer. Maybe I can contribute a thought or two. So why am I in the pit? Because fuck Trump, fuck the facist Republicans, fuck the idiots who think socialism and communism are the same thing, that socialism leads to totalitarism, hell fuck the idiots who think we don’t already practice socialism in this country. Get a fucking clue from the “entitlement” program Social Security. I just got into a Facebook debate with an idiot, a friend of my brother in law, who thoght socialism meant…well fuck the details. I swore I would never do it again. This is the second time I have made that vow. What was the Mark Twain quote about arguing with an idiot? Well, here, there are some idiots, sure. But there are so many here who destroy their idiot arguments with logic and (not alternative) facts. So here’s to all of you people fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/2 "2019-02-11T01:03:25Z")
Welcome! You can swear at those folks all you want in the forums. You just can’t swear at a poster unless you’re in here. No swearing at mods. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/3 "2019-02-11T01:04:53Z")
Welcome to the Dope! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/4 "2019-02-11T01:17:17Z")
Hey! Fuckin’ welcome to the fucking Dope, **Mike**! Fuck! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/5 "2019-02-11T01:52:35Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > … > So here’s to all of you people fighting ignorance. And sometimes not even that. Sometimes, just saying:“Man, fuck you Trump, you lying fucking jackass!” Welcome. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/6 "2019-02-11T02:16:48Z")
I declare this the best first post of all time. It reminds me of when rookies get called up to the majors and get a home run on their first at-bat - well done. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/7 "2019-02-11T02:46:36Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I declare this the best first post of all time. It reminds me of when rookies get called up to the majors and get a home run on their first at-bat - well done. He kinda sounds like you! 😃 And, er… well, the rest of us at times. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/8 "2019-02-11T02:51:16Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > I’ve read these boards from time to time over the years. Forgot about The Dope until recently. Don’t know what reminded me of all the great discussions that happen here, I have been browising for about a month. My brother in law once said, “If you can think of it, someone else already has.” That was in the contex of “inventing” things. I’ve “invented” a lot of things over the years, but they already had them (what movie was that from, I know some of you know). Well, on this forum, regarding all the topics being discussed, before I can even post something to make my point, someone else has already done so, better than I can. > > So I will probably most be an observer. Maybe I can contribute a thought or two. > > So why am I in the pit? Because fuck Trump, fuck the facist Republicans, fuck the idiots who think socialism and communism are the same thing, that socialism leads to totalitarism, hell fuck the idiots who think we don’t already practice socialism in this country. Get a fucking clue from the “entitlement” program Social Security. > > I just got into a Facebook debate with an idiot, a friend of my brother in law, who thoght socialism meant…well fuck the details. I swore I would never do it again. This is the second time I have made that vow. What was the Mark Twain quote about arguing with an idiot? > > Well, here, there are some idiots, sure. But there are so many here who destroy their idiot arguments with logic and (not alternative) facts. > > So here’s to all of you people fighting ignorance. At last, someone on these boards has the guts to pit Trump. I never thought it would happen. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/9 "2019-02-11T04:09:32Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > What was the Mark Twain quote about arguing with an idiot? “The coldest argument I ever spent was with an idiot in San Francisco.” ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/10 "2019-02-11T11:26:38Z")
Don’t worry about posting stuff somebody else already talked about. Unless it’s a double post with another poster about somebody famous dying, you do fine. Just go to Cafe Society and talk about food. Those threads are guaranteed a big response. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/11 "2019-02-11T11:34:59Z")
Be careful OP, if you only post in the Pit then that is considered trolling and you will be banned. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/12 "2019-02-11T12:43:59Z")
Fucken hey. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/13 "2019-02-11T20:18:24Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Be careful OP, if you only post in the Pit then that is considered trolling and you will be banned. That’s…not [del]entirely[/del] accurate. . ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/14 "2019-02-11T21:01:31Z")
So far, so good. Welcome mat rolled out. However… 1. Hot dogs. Mustard or ketchup? 2. Toilet paper. Over or under? Answer carefully. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/15 "2019-02-11T21:02:32Z")
> [@Mike Mabes](#): > > What was the Mark Twain quote about arguing with an idiot? Perhaps it’s this one - > [@Mark Twain](#): > > ‘Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.’ Thanks for the heads up though - certainly something to keep in mind when reading your posts. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/16 "2019-02-11T21:27:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “The coldest argument I ever spent was with an idiot in San Francisco.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/17 "2019-02-11T21:33:29Z")
I’m just surprised there wasn’t already a **Mike Mabes** Pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/18 "2019-02-11T21:41:36Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > At last, someone on these boards has the guts to pit Trump. I never thought it would happen. Me either, the OP is full of originality, especially for the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/19 "2019-02-11T21:53:10Z")
Well, looky here.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312/20 "2019-02-12T02:49:56Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > So far, so good. Welcome mat rolled out. However… > > 1. Hot dogs. Mustard or ketchup? > 2. Toilet paper. Over or under? > > Answer carefully. 😃 1. Ketchup is wrong. But if you also put mustard on I wouldn’t make you leave my table 2. Under makes no sense at all. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-member-going-straight-to-the-pit/829312.md?page=2)