New Name for Gulf War II - The Chickenhawk War!

I always thought “chicken hawk” was slang for “pedophile” (usually referring to a gay man). When did “chickenhawk” start meaning someone who supports war but is unwilling to fight?

The spelling of the two terms is different, so I guess technically they’re not the same, but when I hear or see the term I usually don’t notice whether there’s a space between the words. Has the war-related “chickenhawk” become very popular?

Gulf War II: Chickenhawk’s Revenge has a nice aptness to it, but it’s just not direct enough. The Chickenhawk War is more to the point.


Been there, done that. I checked it to make sure the people I named as chickenhawks were in fact chickenhawks. Great link, though.

Misnomer, it’s a fairly recent term, according to this listing in Wikipedia.

Bricker, it’s true the Dems have not been following my wise and absolutely free advice for the last few years, but if this gets loose online, I think it could backdoor its way into the mainstream media rather easily. It’s a very appealing term, rolls right off the tongue, and has the advantage of readily distinguishing this Gulf war from Gulf War I.

treis, I am not in Iraq fighting the troops because it is my fondest wish that every last one of them come back safely. My quarrel isn’t with the troops in Iraq, they’re just people doing their duty, it’s with the idiot chickenhawks who’ve put them in harm’s way for no good reason.

No you said:

And I am asking you why aren’t you backing up your word with actions?

Not to answer for anybody else, but…
If one’s convictions are that our troops should be brought home, how would you be following your convictions to go take up arms against them?

See, it makes no sense.

I don’t think we will. Thanks to the Chickenhawks, Saddam is out of control and his rotten kids are dead.

Yeep I think I saw him on dictators gone wild: spring break. :eek: :smiley:

Perhaps I’ve seen too many Foghorn Leghorn cartoons, but I always thought the term “chickenhawk” referred to a fiesty little bird with more confidence and aggressiveness than it had size and ability to bring off.

I would think Iraq’s actions under Hussein would fit this definition better than the action the U.S. is taking against it.

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Word. I once read that good satire is what sounds absurd today, but is then repeated in all seriousness twenty years later. These past few years have convinced me that Wilson’s a fricken’ genius.

I’m not the one who’s advocating sending OTHERS in harms’ way. There’s a much greater burden to be borne by such.

The one I’m worried about is Gulf War III: Revenge of the Terrorists.

No gay marriage - well nobody’s denying where the Republicans have stood on this issue. Some would question whether they’re right but they did take a definite stand. So points for them.

But on the other issues:

Tax cuts - Lowering government revenue while raising government spending. Aren’t the Republicans supposed to be the fiscally sensible party?

Less government interference - Heard about the PATRIOT Act? I mean in broad outline, I realize a lot of the details have been classified.

Less political correctness - The Republican Party: Defending Your Right To Tell Jokes About Niggers - Yeah, that’ll look good on a bumper sticker.

Welcoming religion into the public sphere. - Well, one religion anyway. The others will have to wait their turn I guess. And I suppose it’s only fair we let Christians take the first turn. I’m sure they’ll be equally understanding when the government decides to redo American society based on Daoist beliefs and practices.

Oppose immorality - Was there a party that was supporting immorality? Oh wait, maybe you meant “opposing immorality” in the sense of “telling other people what their moral standards should be”. I guess we’ll reconcile this with the “less government interference” platform in committee.

Be definite about right and wrong. - So close. Just missed the subtle distinction between saying you’re right and actually being right. It’s like the difference between saying there’s WMD’s in Iraq and there actually being WMD’s in Iraq.

Support traditional American institutions - Boy Scouts, church, marriage between a man and a woman - But what do we do when these institutions start attacking each other? Like when churchmen molest boy scouts? Or Jennifer Lopez gets married to Billy Bob Thorton?

This thread is too stupid and the OP used a pretty retarded platitude so it deserves no serious response. But the military is predominantly registered Republican, so the whole chickenhawk label is stupid. Legislator’s aren’t supposed to go to war in all reality, although some do.

Tell that to JFK, McGovern, McCain, Kerry, Eisenhower, and Washington to name a few.


Obviously, if one is a chickenhawk, they’re not in the military.
So pointing out the Republican content of the military is kinda pointless.

I mean to say government leaders are typically better serving their country at that stage in their lives as government leaders, not jumping off into war at age 42 (ala Strom Thurmond.) Now obviously that has merit, but I feel usually it is a political statement to do so and plus I don’t know of anyone who has done it since Korea at least.

People who served then become legislators are a different animal from what I was speaking of.

I’m not sure if you’re obfuscating or misunderstanding.

Nobody is saying Bush should enlist now, simply the fact the he, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc… dodged the Vietnam war. Thus, when the chips were down, they couldn’t be bothered to risk or sacrifice a damn thing. And now they ask you to give your sons and daughters to their meat grinder. And anybody who objects is un-american, a traitor, a lover of terrorists, a Saddamite, etc…

So, chickenhawks are both the pol’s who dodged war and now ask you to go to war, and those who suport the pol’s who couldn’t be bothered to actually support the trooops, but who’ll cheerlead for blood being spilled.

The literal accuracy of the term is almost not at issue: the real point is whether calling it “The Chickenhawk War” will be an effective meme for undermining Bushco’s war efforts. I’d say “Yes.”

Personally I think it’d just enrage a bunch of Americans.

"What, you’re saying our Glorious Leader has done wrong? What’re you, un-umeriken? "