# NEW New Order!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965 "2001-10-22T22:51:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/1 "2001-10-22T22:51:41Z")

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I just got the brand-spankin’ new New Order CD today. Actually paid for it and everything. I’ve always been a longtime fan of the band and so far, I’m thinking this CD rocks.

Any takers?

Who hates it? Why?

If you haven’t heard it yet, it sounds a lot like Technique, much use of guitars and other actual instruments. Very layered, as always between the electronica and the guitars and such.

Let’s hear the critique my friends!

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**Author:** ![hazel-rah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hazel-rah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazel-rah)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/2 "2001-10-23T02:00:11Z")

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Had a listen at the record store the other day. What is up with letting Billy Corgan and Bobby Gillespie on it? Yuck. Since when did a New Order album feature anyone except New Order?

Anyway, track one sounded nice, and the rest sounded awful. How’s that for a first impression? I love every one of their other albums.

I’ll probably buy it eventually and burn myself a copy sans the two tracks containing guests. Should grow on me.

-fh

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/3 "2001-10-23T03:17:34Z")

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I read that Gillian Gilbert was not on it for “family obligations” or something like that. What happened?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/4 "2001-10-23T03:50:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Snooooopy \*  
> I read that Gillian Gilbert was not on it for “family obligations” or something like that. What happened?

I know she wasn’t touring cos she was taking care of her and Stephen’s child; I didn’t know she wasn’t on the album at all. I’ve only heard snippets of Get Ready; if it sounds like Technique I’ll be very happy–Republic was a bit of a disappointment.

(Hell, I’m just happy New Order’s together again.)

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**Author:** ![HalberMensch242](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HalberMensch242](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HalberMensch242)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/5 "2001-10-23T22:29:00Z")

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Ok…i haven’t gotten it yet, but i LOVED Technique, and unlike a lot of other fans, i also enjoyed Republic. So, how does it compare to Republic and or Technique?

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/6 "2001-10-23T23:04:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadarene \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Snooooopy \*  
> > I read that Gillian Gilbert was not on it for “family obligations” or something like that. What happened?
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> I know she wasn’t touring cos she was taking care of her and Stephen’s child; I didn’t know she wasn’t on the album at all. I’ve only heard snippets of Get Ready; if it sounds like Technique I’ll be very happy–Republic was a bit of a disappointment.
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> (Hell, I’m just happy New Order’s together again.) \*\*

Wait, maybe what I read only applied to the touring as well. I dunno.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/7 "2001-10-24T05:30:36Z")

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I’m pretty sure she was with New Order at Moby’s Area:One festival. I seem to remember her being introduced when Moby brought them out for _New Dawn Fades_. My memory is a bit hazy though, so I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bad\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_Hat)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/8 "2001-10-24T05:58:06Z")

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yook…  
They did “New Dawn Fades” with Moby??? wow… i need to find me some of that. any online sightings of it?  
as far as the OP, haven’t heard it, but the idea is exciting to me too, though I actually liked republic MORE than technique, not saying much, as I didn’t really like either of them all that much. I think I’ll pci kit up tomorrow and report back with a verdict.  
thanks for the reminder  
Bad Hat

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/9 "2001-10-24T06:11:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bad Hat \*  
> \*\*yook…  
> They did “New Dawn Fades” with Moby??? wow… \*\*

Wow indeed. He brought them out during his set (which rocked)…going on about what a dream come true it was for him to be playing a Joy Division song with the guys who did the original. Billy Corgan was there too (he was playing with NO on the tour). It was way cool.

Apparently he’s a big JD/NO fan (which is why they were on the tour).

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> **i need to find me some of that. any online sightings of it?**

Not that I’ve seen. Would be cool to have.

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> \*\*as far as the OP, haven’t heard it, but the idea is exciting to me too, though I actually liked republic MORE than technique, not saying much, as I didn’t really like either of them all that much. I think I’ll pci kit up tomorrow and report back with a verdict.  
> thanks for the reminder  
> Bad Hat \*\*

I like **Get Ready** a lot.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-new-order/88965/10 "2001-10-24T10:34:28Z")

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I love the new single, Crystal, though I’m not overly familiar with their work- beyond Blue Monday, that is.
