# New Orleans prostitutes recategorized as "sex offenders"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667 "2010-01-20T05:42:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/1 "2010-01-20T05:42:14Z")
IANAL, but [this seems pretty damn stupid and pointless](http://www.colorlines.com/article.php?ID=673). “The way Louisiana’s habitual offender law works, if you challenge your sentence in court and lose, and it’s a third offense, the mandatory minimum is 20 years. The maximum is life.” You’d think the people of New Orleans would have more important issues than hookers. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/2 "2010-01-20T05:57:20Z")
How are there still laws on the books criminalizing consensual sexual activity based on what body parts are involved? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/3 "2010-01-20T13:39:05Z")
Prostitution should just be legal. Period. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/4 "2010-01-20T17:59:49Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Prostitution should just be legal. Period. But regulated. ---
**Author:** ![Defero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@Defero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defero)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/5 "2010-01-20T20:39:26Z")
Freedom. Period. This law isn’t just stupid, it’s evil. There has never, ever, ever been a shred of evidence to support the notion that we can debate about whether or not prostitution can be allowed to happen. It will happen. It’s just where, how, and how badly people get hurt. Once decriminalized, any “victim-less crime” can be regarded as a health issue and pretty much solved through voluntary treatment, and of course education and support. And for a tiny fraction of the cost. ---
**Author:** ![i\_am\_a\_scientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f07891/32.png) [@i\_am\_a\_scientist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/i_am_a_scientist)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/6 "2010-01-20T22:30:26Z")
“She also has to purchase and mail postcards with her picture to everyone in the neighborhood informing them of her conviction.” Nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/7 "2010-01-20T22:33:36Z")
> [@i\_am\_a\_scientist](#): > > “She also has to purchase and mail postcards with her picture to everyone in the neighborhood informing them of her conviction.” > > Nice touch. Can she mark it as an business expense? Advertising I think. Regardless of whether or not you support the legalization of prostitution it’s pretty sick to make prostitutes register as sexual offenders. That should be a category reserved for rapist and others who commit sexually based crimes against those who aren’t willing. I sure as hell hope johns are added to this list of sexual offenders. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/8 "2010-01-20T22:34:50Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > How are there still laws on the books criminalizing consensual sexual activity based on what body parts are involved? From the article cited in the OP: > [@](#): > > The law, which dates back to 1805, makes it a crime against nature to engage in “unnatural copulation”—a term New Orleans cops and the district attorney’s office have interpreted to mean anal or oral sex. I would have thought that [Lawrence v. Texas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas) made such laws unconstitutional. Unfortunately, most street walkers wouldn’t have the money to challenge the law or the conviction. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/9 "2010-01-20T22:41:06Z")
The fun bit is that, in the event of emergency (say, hurricane/flood), sex offenders must report to specific shelters designated for their use. Yup. We’re going to take already marginalized, vulnerable women, let them get well and truly freaked out by the next big natural disaster to hit NOLA, and then shove them in a building full of _real_ sex offenders. Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![i\_am\_a\_scientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f07891/32.png) [@i\_am\_a\_scientist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/i_am_a_scientist)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/10 "2010-01-20T22:53:10Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > The fun bit is that, in the event of emergency (say, hurricane/flood), sex offenders must report to specific shelters designated for their use. > > Yup. We’re going to take already marginalized, vulnerable women, let them get well and truly freaked out by the next big natural disaster to hit NOLA, and then shove them in a building full of _real_ sex offenders. > > Brilliant! I wonder which hurricane shelter Sen. David Vitter would gravitate to for his post-disaster photo-ops.. ---
**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/11 "2010-01-20T23:05:50Z")
wow - seems like there are some ex-post facto issues in the Federal Law as described, in addition to what **Giles** said. ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/12 "2010-01-21T00:56:41Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > I would have thought that [Lawrence v. Texas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas) made such laws unconstitutional. A poster on MetaFilter dug out the [Louisiana Supreme Court’s take on things as they relate to Lawrence Vs. Texas](http://www.lasc.org/opinions/2005/04ka0559.opn.pdf) (PDF) [QUOTE=jedicus, over on MeFi] Basically, the unnatural copulation law applies in two situations: 1. where the unnatural copulation was part of or was an act of rape (i.e., it adds an additional offense beyond the rape itself). […] 2. where it was “The solicitation by a human being of another with the intent to engage in any unnatural carnal copulation for compensation.” La. R.S. 14.89(A)(2). This is the part that the sex workers are being charged under. Note that ‘solicitation’ is a term of art in the criminal law context; this applies to both the sex worker and the john. So, in addition to being charged with prostitution, the sex workers are being charged with this sort of ‘prostitution plus’ as a result of the particular service being offered. Now, the LA Supreme Court recognized that Lawrence legalized private sodomy, including heterosexual sodomy. But, the court in Lawrence said in one line that ‘this isn’t a prostitution case.’ So the LA Supreme Court ruled that this law, which only applies to prostitution, was not affected by Lawrence because Lawrence was not, directly, about prostitution. From there the court’s reasoning comes from other cases. It basically amounts to ‘the legislature has, in its collective wisdom, decided that solicitation of unnatural copulation is worse than mere solicitation of sex.’ It’s a crap argument, in my opinion, but there it is. […] [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/13 "2010-01-21T01:24:30Z")
And this is why we oppose cruel and unusual punishments for **everyone**. Because when we start making exceptions, even for the scum of the earth, it threatens the rights of everyone. It sets a precedent that puts **everyone** in danger of losing their rights. Sex offender registration laws are a bad idea even when we’re applying them to the most depraved child rapists out there (those people you keep in prison instead of sending back out into the community with a scarlet letter), but maybe this attempt (far from an isolated incident) to expand the scope of these stupid and dangerous laws will snap people out of their “first they came for…” style complacency. Or maybe I’m being too optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-orleans-prostitutes-recategorized-as-sex-offenders/525667/14 "2010-01-21T05:55:00Z")
> [@](#): > > it’s pretty sick to make prostitutes register as sexual offenders. That should be a category reserved for rapist and others who commit sexually based crimes against those who aren’t willing. I sure as hell hope johns are added to this list of sexual offenders. AMEN!!! Why not get them into rehab? There was an article in the paper about a sheriff who was getting truck stop prosistuties into rehab.