# New Penn & Teller Bullshit tonight: Circumcision

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 26, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096 "2005-04-26T00:31:11Z")
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### Author: ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/1 "2005-04-26T00:31:11Z")

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Just a heads-up, I know there’s fans of the show here.

10pm EST, Showtime

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### Author: ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/2 "2005-04-26T00:38:50Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Just a heads-up

Ouch!

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### Author: ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/3 "2005-04-26T00:39:46Z")

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Oh lord, not another [circumcision thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296091&page=1)!

“I am sorry you are angry and confused…but I hope you can get past that in the future so you will be happy with yourself.”

Stranger

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### Author: ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/4 "2005-04-26T01:51:22Z")

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I saw that in People magazine. I don’t get Shotime, and was going to start a thread myself asking people who did watch it to give me an update. Wouldn’t it be so cool if they had an “expert” on named Jack Dean?

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### Author: ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/5 "2005-04-26T02:30:38Z")

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Christ, what a dick-mutilating horror show. Thanks for the nightmare-fuel, Penn and Teller.

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### Author: ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/6 "2005-04-26T02:32:04Z")

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Just got done watching the show.

No new arguments. Same overheated rhetoric. I realized that this is a topic that I don’t really care that much about one way or the other.

However, I had no idea about the non-surgical method to regrow your foreskin. Yup, apparently it’s true. No mention though if the new growth has the same number of nerves per sq. inch. The video of the guy inserting the stretching weight was pretty…unnerving.

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### Author: ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/7 "2005-04-26T02:37:58Z")

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Well, no JDT, but if you ever wanted to see the Tug-Ahoy at work on a 70-year-old guy, this was your show.

P&T generally came out against it in the ‘do no harm’ principle, although they refused to show us theirs. Very funny show.

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### Author: ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/8 "2005-04-26T06:06:01Z")

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Just happened to be flipping through the channels and caught this show.

Reminded me of an old joke.

“So Rabbi, what do you do with all the foreskins after the circumcisions?”  
“I save them and make them into wallets.”  
“Why into wallets?”  
“Very practical. You stroke the wallet a couple times and it becomes a suitcase.”  
Regarding the show…eh…same old story. I personally know a few men in Europe who had to have emergency circumcisions when there was an unfortunate rip on the tip during intercourse. One guy went screaming with pain in an ambulance to the hospital one night and the next time I saw him he said, “now I look as American as you do.”

I personally think circumsized looks better, and the kids in my school who weren’t circumsized were laughed at in gym class. Not a ringing endorsement for the snip, but true nonetheless.

But if you missed the show tonight, you didn’t miss much other than a rather gross presentation by the old dude who was able to get his foreskin back using a device I think I can live without seeing again for the rest of my life.

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### Author: ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/9 "2005-04-26T06:42:24Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> I personally think circumsized looks better, and the kids in my school who weren’t circumsized were laughed at in gym class. Not a ringing endorsement for the snip, but true nonetheless.

So a kid’s penis should be mutilated merely so it conforms to society’s expectations? I suspect the only reason why many people prefer the “circumsized” look is because that’s all they’ve been exposed to.

Regardless of the reasoning, it’s asinine that it’s considered acceptable to involuntarily mutilate somebody’s body for cosmetic reasons.

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### Author: ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/10 "2005-04-26T06:47:17Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> I personally know a few men in Europe who had to have emergency circumcisions when there was an unfortunate rip on the tip during intercourse. One guy went screaming with pain in an ambulance to the hospital one night and the next time I saw him he said, “now I look as American as you do.”

Surely you’re not asserting that this is the norm? If so, that’s a blatent Hasty Generalization.

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### Author: ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/11 "2005-04-26T07:13:27Z")

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I guess most american women don’t like uncut cocks, as that is what they are mostly exposed to, but I have no preference one way or the other…

Well, not entirely true, I would prefer uncircumcised unless there is a religious or medically necessary component. I think it is silly to lop body parts off for nothing more than fashion. Nobody expects _me_ to have a breast augment, so I don’t see why anybody should get snipped unless there is a really good reason for it. Not going to leave mrAru for being uncut, there is more in a relationship for me than cut/uncut…

Besides, you can do silly sock puppet tricks with an uncut cock 😛

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### Author: ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/12 "2005-04-26T11:23:15Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Besides, you can do silly sock puppet tricks with an uncut cock 😛

[slight hijack] Has anyone seen Puppetry of the Penis? I would imagine those guys are uncut - more versatility, and they’re Austrailian, so that would be default.[/highjack]

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### Author: ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/13 "2005-04-26T13:07:19Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> [slight hijack] Has anyone seen Puppetry of the Penis? I would imagine those guys are uncut - more versatility, and they’re Austrailian, so that would be default.[/highjack]

I would also add that cut ones _taste_ better.

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### Author: ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/14 "2005-04-26T13:32:25Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> I would also add that cut ones _taste_ better.

one word: smegma

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### Author: ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/15 "2005-04-26T14:10:33Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> one word: smegma

Another word: Washing.

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### Author: ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/16 "2005-04-26T14:39:05Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Another word: Washing.

And another: impromptu

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### Author: ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/17 "2005-04-26T14:44:57Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> one word: smegma

By the same logic you shouldn’t wear any clothes.

… or then again you could wash. Just a thought.

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### Author: ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/18 "2005-04-26T15:02:12Z")

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> [@Futile Gesture](#):
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> By the same logic you shouldn’t wear any clothes.

You might be on to something …

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### Author: ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/19 "2005-04-26T17:28:33Z")

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> [@Duderdude2](#):
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> Surely you’re not asserting that this is the norm?

I **am** asserting that this is the norm.  
And don’t call me Shirley.

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### Author: ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/20 "2005-04-26T17:50:12Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> I **am** asserting that this is the norm.  
> And don’t call me Shirley.

Umm, huh?

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