# New Penn & Teller Bullshit tonight: Circumcision **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096 "2005-04-26T00:31:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/21 "2005-04-26T18:53:01Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I personally think circumsized looks better, and the kids in my school who weren’t circumsized were laughed at in gym class. Not a ringing endorsement for the snip, but true nonetheless. I’ve never had another man or a boy comment on my penis in any locker room, ever. What sort of school did you go to? If you did that in Ireland you’d be on your way to the hospital 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/22 "2005-04-26T18:55:40Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > And another: impromptu Er…you’re armpits will get a lot funkier a lot quick than your penis will. Seriously, that’s a real myth. Washing takes care of all those problems. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/23 "2005-04-26T18:59:59Z")
I don’t lick armpits. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/24 "2005-04-26T19:01:33Z")
If impromptu is what’s important, you can get over the taste. Even cut penises taste better when they’ve been recently washed, but if you’re in the mood to get some action right this second and don’t feel like waiting for your partner to go hop in the shower… well, I’ve never personally found it to be all that big a deal. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/25 "2005-04-26T19:51:42Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > I don’t lick armpits. I still don’t understand your point. Rather, I do, but I can’t understand how you can justify it. You want kid’s penises to be mutilated because you don’t like the look and taste? You do realize these are subjective matters, right? And even if it weren’t, it’s still sickening, in my opinion, to change anyone’s body involuntarily because of a social standard. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/26 "2005-04-26T20:38:49Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > You want kid’s penises to be mutilated because you don’t like the look and taste? You do realize these are subjective matters, right? And even if it weren’t, it’s still sickening, in my opinion, to change anyone’s body involuntarily because of a social standard. Calm down **JDT**. I was being light-hearted and riffing off **gobear** ’s original comment, then playing off the others. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/27 "2005-04-26T23:42:57Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Calm down **JDT**. I was being light-hearted and riffing off **gobear** ’s original comment, then playing off the others. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this subject. Besides, considering what passed for personal hygiene for most of the existence of humanity on this planet, we’re probably as close to the golden age of fresh-tasting wangs (and hoohahs, but that’s not the current subject) as we’ve ever been since clothes were invented, regardless of snippage. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/28 "2005-04-26T23:51:01Z")
Sorry, but I have in my peregrinations come across some funky uncut wangs, and thus they didn’t get a chance to come across me. I picked up one guy in New Orleans whose dick STANK to the point I thought I was going to heave. I made my excuses and ran! In my experience, few cut guys wash well enough to get the smegmatic aroma out. Maybe every uncut guy here is a paragon of cleanliness, but I haven’t slept with you. And what an odd subject to be one of my last posts here. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/29 "2005-04-26T23:57:16Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > … one of my last posts here. ?? Did I miss something? Are you going somewhere? Say it ain’t so! ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/30 "2005-04-27T00:03:35Z")
I recently got broken up with by an uncut guy (who can rot in Hell, but that’s another thread), who was my first (my first uncut guy, not my first anything). He kind of varied; there were times when it was obvious that he hadn’t washed thoroughly enough and times when it was no big deal. Neither the smell or the taste was ever overpowering, though. Not really any worse than a cut guy with lots of precum. I’m uncut, but I always wash very thoroughly every day and usually shower in the morning and the evening. I’ve never had a problem with scent or had complaints about taste. I find that I like the uncut-edness more, actually. It’s nice not to have to worry about fishing out the lube if we’re just doing handjobs and the like, and an uncut guy is more likely to know what to do with mine (I’ve had cut guys really hurt me because they had no idea what to do with someone who’s uncut). Of course, my preference for uncut guys runs pretty contrary to my attraction to Jewish men, but that’s also another thread. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/31 "2005-04-27T00:16:50Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > [slight hijack] Has anyone seen Puppetry of the Penis? I would imagine those guys are uncut - more versatility, and they’re Austrailian, so that would be default.[/highjack] The two original penis puppeteers are both cut. And routine infant circumcision used to be very common, if not the default, in Australia. (This is no longer the case.) ---
**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/32 "2005-04-27T03:20:30Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > P&T generally came out against it in the ‘do no harm’ principle, although they refused to show us theirs. Very funny show. Bit ironic for Penn. He writes glowingly of scarifications in _How to Play in Traffic_. (He calls it a “tattoo of blood” and brags Lou Reed wrote a song about his own scarification.) Circumcision’s an extreme version, and raises the issue of whether a parent should be able to do this to a child, but it is related to Penn’s favorite body art. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/33 "2005-04-27T03:50:20Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > Surely you’re not asserting that this is the norm? If so, that’s a blatent Hasty Generalization. American male here. In my life, which included grade school and high school atheletics, I have seen exactly one uncircumsized penis. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/34 "2005-04-27T04:09:55Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > American male here. In my life, which included grade school and high school atheletics, I have seen exactly one uncircumsized penis. That wasn’t what my quote was attributed to. What I was addressing was that the poster I quoted seemed to imply that having a foreskin will create problems down the line, which he based on a miniscule sample of two people. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/35 "2005-04-27T04:32:07Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > it’s still sickening, in my opinion, to change anyone’s body involuntarily because of a social standard. So I take it you are against ear piercings (or piercings of any kind for that matter). After all, the mutilation is about the same as a circumsized penis (circumsized penii still work with no adverse effects). ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/36 "2005-04-27T04:45:15Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > That wasn’t what my quote was attributed to. What I was addressing was that the poster I quoted seemed to imply that having a foreskin will create problems down the line, which he based on a miniscule sample of two people. Sorry I misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/37 "2005-04-27T04:46:28Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > So I take it you are against ear piercings (or piercings of any kind for that matter). After all, the mutilation is about the same as a circumsized penis (circumsized penii still work with no adverse effects). What part of **“involuntarily”** did you not understand? Also, last I checked, an ear piercing did not constitute the removal of part of one’s body. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/38 "2005-04-27T06:11:29Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > Umm, huh? Complete this quote: “Surely, you can’t be serious!” “I **am** serious. And don’t \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_” ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/39 "2005-04-27T06:15:52Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > Complete this quote: > > “Surely, you can’t be serious!” > “I **am** serious. And don’t \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_” Wouldn’t it make more sense if you were the person that I originally quoted? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096/40 "2005-04-27T06:17:33Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > I would also add that cut ones _taste_ better. Not always. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-penn-teller-bullshit-tonight-circumcision/301096.md?page=3)