# New poll:  Confidence in Bush leadership at all-time low

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 23, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035 "2007-01-23T02:29:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/41 "2007-01-23T20:37:56Z")

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Since this is a thread about how Bush is polling, I should point out that [eight major news or polling organizations have polled Bush’s approval rating in the last week](http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm), i.e. January 16-present. The _average_ of the eight polls was 34% approve, 62% disapprove of Bush’s job performance.

So the CBS poll (28% approve, 64% disapprove) was only a modest outlier. But it was still sweet to see him crack 30. Even Drudge said he was getting into the Nixon zone.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/42 "2007-01-23T22:54:50Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Seems like Hollywood is more likely to produce a successful “R” politician than a “D”.  
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Unless Tim Robbins jumps into politics . . . I wonder if he ever will . . .

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/43 "2007-01-23T23:20:09Z")

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Or George Clooney, or Tom Hanks. I believe they’re both Dems, and they could win just about anywhere they ran.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/44 "2007-01-24T02:32:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I’d also like to bet that a Democrat is inaugurated in Jan. 2009, as well. Can I get in on the action for $100?  
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Done!

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/45 "2007-01-24T02:40:27Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
Since this is a thread about how Bush is polling, I should point out that [eight major news or polling organizations have polled Bush’s approval rating in the last week](http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm), i.e. January 16-present. The _average_ of the eight polls was 34% approve, 62% disapprove of Bush’s job performance.

So the CBS poll (28% approve, 64% disapprove) was only a modest outlier. But it was still sweet to see him crack 30. Even Drudge said he was getting into the Nixon zone.  
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Since Bush’s poll numbers DROP every time he gives a major address to the American people, I’m expecting a new record low within the next couple of days.

(What is the opposite of a “bounce”? Splat? Thud? Freefall?)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/46 "2007-01-24T04:42:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
(What is the opposite of a “bounce”? Splat? Thud? Freefall?)  
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So far, the media are calling W’s “surge” speech a “concrete trampoline.” In terms of the “bounce” it gives him.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/47 "2007-01-24T12:13:19Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Right now, I don’t think either party has a majority of state delegations in the House.

Not quite, though you’re close. According to this site, Republicans are in the majority of 21 delegations, Democrats control 26, and three are evenly split. And that again, presumes that nothing changes for the Democrats’ worse in 2008 House elections.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/48 "2007-01-24T12:18:37Z")

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Bricker,

Although I may not agree with your political views, I respect your right to hold them. 🆒  
I also like a man who puts his money where his mouth is! 😃

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/49 "2007-01-24T19:48:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
Not quite, though you’re close. According to this site, Republicans are in the majority of 21 delegations, Democrats control 26, and three are evenly split. And that again, presumes that nothing changes for the Democrats’ worse in 2008 House elections.  
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I expect they’re right. I’d counted it up back in mid-November and come up with a count of 25-22-3. My notes are at home, so I’m going to be curious to see just where I screwed up!

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/50 "2007-01-28T16:25:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
Since Bush’s poll numbers DROP every time he gives a major address to the American people, I’m expecting a new record low within the next couple of days.

(What is the opposite of a “bounce”? Splat? Thud? Freefall?)  
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I guess I called this one. (See link.)

[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16840614/site/newsweek/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16840614/site/newsweek/)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/51 "2007-01-28T16:38:54Z")

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OP dated 1-22 already obsolete. New all time low reached.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/52 "2007-01-29T05:24:42Z")

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Ah, _schadenfreude_… it’s a beautiful thing.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/53 "2007-01-29T07:40:45Z")

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So, if the troop surge goes horribly wrong, with American casualties skyrocketing as insurgents and militias kill wholesale lots of our troops embedded in Baghdad neighborhoods, what then for Bush’s numbers? Could they slump into the teens as even the diehards give up on him?

Single digits, even? It seems impossible, and yet Bush’s talent for blundering in the Middle East is astounding.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/54 "2007-01-29T15:11:20Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
So, if the troop surge goes horribly wrong, with American casualties skyrocketing as insurgents and militias kill wholesale lots of our troops embedded in Baghdad neighborhoods, what then for Bush’s numbers? Could they slump into the teens as even the diehards give up on him?  
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Sure. But he’ll still be president.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/55 "2009-09-28T14:32:02Z")

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I came across a note in my reminder file about this thread. Since the inauguration of President Obama, I believe that **Bricker** now owes **Frank, RTFirefly, Jonathan Chance, pulykamell** and me some money. 😃

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/56 "2009-09-29T00:30:25Z")

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For those keeping score at home, **Bricker** and I have already taken care of this.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-poll-confidence-in-bush-leadership-at-all-time-low/389035/57 "2009-09-29T01:00:35Z")

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My guess is that te principals are posters of principle and the matter has been resolved on all counts.

This zombie will now return to the grave.

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