New Pope election.

You’re thinking of Marcel Lefebvre. Although he got into trouble for rejecting liturgical reforms, what actually got him excommunicated was ordaining four of his own bishops without Vatican approval.

He died in 1991, 14 years before Ratzinger became pope. His excommunication remained in force. Ratzinger did, however, lift the excommunication on the four bishops who were ordained by him.

Jeannine Gramick and Robert Nugent. The weren’t excommunicated; they were directed not to engage in pastoral work with lesbian and gay people.

Nugent accepted the order and returned to parish ministry; Gramick has rejected it and continues in her ministry to gays and lesbians, and is supported in that by the Catholic religious order of which she is a member. She has not, so far as I know, been further disciplined by the Vatican.

You mean, you garnished the story.

On the way to schism it is, dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t for the Church to enforce the rules; as with the contraceptive example it is clear to me that a growing division is taking place.

And I would not be against it, as the new church will be more responsive than the old Roman farts one. But when I look at history I expect that countries, in the Americas specially, will then have yet another reason to rekindle old divisions.

The Daily Show sees a number of parallels between the Catholic church and the American Republican party, and has some suggestions for candidates.

Altar boy, were you?

Oh man, if they can get Roger Daltrey, that would be AWESOME!

There are several lists of papabile already out there, but who knows? As the old saying goes, “He who enters the conclave a Pope leaves it a cardinal.”

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/11/could-the-next-pope-be-from-africa-or-latin-america/?hpt=hp_t3

http://news.yahoo.com/papal-resignation-opens-door-many-contenders-000719682.html

Well, you won’t see that right away – “penultimate” meaning “next to last.”

Looking at the likely candidates, it could be in less than 10 years.

I’m keeping an eye on who Nate Silver picks.

This is going to be Cardinal Ratzinger’s retirement home.

Someone should register CardinalTwoTen :slight_smile:

*At last count there are 210 cardinals that can vote.

There are a few. There’s Lehman. There’s Danneels. There’s Hummes. There’s Bergaglio. (There’s Mahony, but given the situation…) But there are some more than just those. They’re a minority right now, but they exist.

There are 210 cardinals in total, but the ones older than 80 can’t vote in the conclave. There are 118 electors.

Doh’ :smack:, well, then OneOneEight for Deacon Silver.

Unfortunately, they already registered that in England.

(No, you are not imagining things, that is Ray Parker Junior in an ad for the information service 118 in Britain.)

Who you gonna call? :slight_smile:

Whoa. They are dropping like flies.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=9001675

By the 21st of this month one cardinal dropped as he declared himself to be too infirm, leaving then, according to that article, 116 electors.

We are then down to 115 with the resignation of Cardinal O’Brien and appropriately, the Daily Beast :slight_smile: reports that:

The deluded bastard is resigning amid rumors he’s propositioned adult male priests? Shit, that’s big improvement! He oughta be Pope.

Aaaand the one British RC Cardinal resigns! Amid charges of “inappropriate behavior,” whatever that might be!

Sooo, there’s no chance that there will be an English Pope, for the first time since Nicholas Breakspear! :frowning:

Nitpick: O’Brien is not English.

Well, technically they’re not restricted to electing one of the other electors, so anything is possible.