# New Religion Group? "Have you ever heard of the Passover?"

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**Created:** [June 20, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-religion-group-have-you-ever-heard-of-the-passover/586142 "2011-06-20T12:45:47Z")\
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Got approached by sort of reverse mormon missionaries wearing black shirts and handing out bookmarks entitled “Have you ever heard of the Passport”, arguing that Communion should properly be only done on Passover day, not every week; and that Saturday was the true sabbath (they denied being 7th day adventists, saying that the adventists only have one fraction of the truth).

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> The passover of the Old Testament promised protection from destructions. For us, the promise of the New Covenant Passover is Eternal Life. We invite you to come study more about the Passover so that you can see how destruction will pass over you.

Anyone encounter this before? Explanations?

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-religion-group-have-you-ever-heard-of-the-passover/586142/2 "2011-06-20T12:49:01Z")

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For those people it depends on how much of the OT law you mix in with the NT grace. Varying denominations have varying levels of mixing, perhaps some have none.

> [@sassyfras](#):
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> Got approached by sort of reverse mormon missionaries wearing black shirts and handing out bookmarks entitled “Have you ever heard of the Passport”, arguing that Communion should properly be only done on Passover day,\*\* not every week\*\*; and that Saturday was the true sabbath (they denied being 7th day adventists, saying that the adventists only have one fraction of the truth).
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> Anyone encounter this before? Explanations?

Bold mine

Just to comment, in some churches, and my belief also, it was expressed that communion can be done at any time by any believer, and not reserved for once a week inside a church building, nor restricted to pastors/priests.

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I’m guessing Jews for Jesus or some variation thereof.

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Just to comment, in some churches, and my belief also, it was expressed that communion can be done at any time by any believer, and not reserved for once a week inside a church building, nor restricted to pastors/priests.

Catholics are (were?) encouraged to receive communion daily (via a priest generally, though) as a way to grace. I figure I’m still coasting on the grace built up by daily mass during the school year from 2nd through 8th grade.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-religion-group-have-you-ever-heard-of-the-passover/586142/5 "2011-06-20T13:32:34Z")

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Yeah, there seems to be a lot of Jews for Jesus around, even if they don’t call themselves Jews for Jesus. Christians who follow the Old Testament laws, and some go on to incorporate Jewish traditions that came after the Old Testament times.

I ran across one young woman on the Internet who does not call herself a Christian, but a Jew, although she has no Jewish heritage, did not formally convert, and believes that Jesus is her savior. Makes me sort of :dubious:

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I’m guessing Jews for Jesus or some variation thereof.

This is what I was going to suggest. On Friday, I ran into about a half-dozen J4J’s in downtown Chicago. I think they’re doing a big recruitment push.

Oh, and spoiler:

[They’re not Jewish](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus).

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I agree, there seems to be a big J4J push on. One came to my door Friday, and I don’t recall how long it’s been since I’ve gotten such a visit. (Not long enough, of course.) They don’t do sweeps of my neighborhood with any regular frequency, that’s for sure.

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> [@sassyfras](#):
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> Got approached by sort of reverse mormon missionaries wearing black shirts and handing out bookmarks entitled “Have you ever heard of the Passport”, arguing that Communion should properly be only done on Passover day, not every week; and that Saturday was the true sabbath (they denied being 7th day adventists, saying that the adventists only have one fraction of the truth).
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> Anyone encounter this before? Explanations?

Where are you located?

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It looks like the [Apostolic Messianic Movement](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Messianic_movement) fits the bill.

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Or is it the People’s front of Judea? 😉

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East Coast; not JforJ’s, pure goyim, as opposite as you can from the Yeshiva as possible.

Ok, I think it’s a pentacostal group, the bookmark has no HTML link though, although they weren’t dressed very formally, or conservatively.

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Do they observe the laws of the kashruth? Do Seventh Day Adventists? I never understood how people could claim the “absolute inerrancy of the bible” and then go off and eat pork. Yes, I know Jesus abjured the laws of the kashruth but he didn’t claim the bible was inerrant.

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Just an update - encountered another door-to-door “Jews for J” guy again today. There must be a major drive on.

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From the OP:

> [@sassyfras](#):
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> Got approached by sort of reverse mormon missionaries wearing black shirts and handing out bookmarks entitled “Have you ever heard of the **Passport** ” …

Did you really mean Passport, or is that supposed to say Passover?

Just wondering if the Passport is some new-fangled interpretation of the best way to join the Raelians as their comet goes by or somesuch.
