# New Robert Jordan Book
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 12, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820 "2003-11-12T15:25:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@sirkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirkle)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/1 "2003-11-12T15:25:02Z")
So, as I was in Hastings the other day, one of my friends who worked there said that the new Wheel of Time book is due out in January. I didn’t pay much attention cause I figured I could find out about it online. However, the TOR website doesn’t seem to have been updated in quite a while. When I first got into Wheel of Time I kept up on all this stuff, but haven’t read it for while. So, anyone know if the new WOT book really is due out in January? Does it have a title yet? Any prereleased chapters online?
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### Author:  [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/2 "2003-11-12T15:40:02Z")
The new book, call New Spring: The Novel, is an expansion of Jordan’s story New Spring, which I believe appeared in the _Legends_ anthology (edited by Robert Silverberg).
It is a prequel to Wheel of Time.
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### Author:  [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/3 "2003-11-12T15:50:10Z")
The sad thing is, New Spring (at least in the anthology) is pretty good compared to the dreck he’s been releasing lately.
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### Author:  [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/4 "2003-11-12T15:59:49Z")
WOT 11 will probably be released some time in the year 2012. It will be 900 pages long and advance the plot by approximately 30 minutes Randland time
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### Author:  [@sirkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirkle)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/5 "2003-11-12T16:12:23Z")
Well, damn. I knew one year was way too soon to expect the new WoT book to be out. I guess that’s what I get for trusting Hastings employees. Anyone know what’s up w/ the TOR website? I mean, it doesn’t even have Winters Heart. It hasn’t been updated since Path of Daggers.
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### Author:  [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/6 "2003-11-12T16:29:33Z")
Tor’s site is updated rather sporadically and always has been as far as I know. There are loads of fansites where you can get much more current info.
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### Author:  [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/7 "2003-11-12T16:33:41Z")
If you want up to date info on Wheel of Time I recommend
[www.dragonmount.com](http://www.dragonmount.com)
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### Author:  [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/8 "2003-11-12T17:06:37Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Carl\_A\_Norris \*
> \*\*WOT 11 will probably be released some time in the year 2012. It will be 900 pages long and advance the plot by approximately 30 minutes Randland time \*\*
God, tell me about it. _24_ moves faster.
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### Author:  [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/9 "2003-11-12T18:15:56Z")
I think I’m going to have to try the series again, this time taking notes about characters and motives. By the end of book 9 I had no idea who half of the characters were, and I gave up halfway though 10 just because I felt like I walked into the story halfway through.
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### Author:  [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/10 "2003-11-12T19:05:25Z")
Jesus, the last WOT book was pure, distilled pain. NOTHING happens in the entire book worth noting. There’s not even a freaking climax. The final event was something that had already happened 5 times to that particular character. Hell, I don’t even have to worry about spoilers when discussing it because NOTHING HAPPENS. And yet…I’m still going to read the damn sequel, because I’ve invested too much time in the series.
And **AC** , I had the same feeling in the last two novels, but got through it by realizing it doesn’t matter. None of the characters you don’t recognize ever do anything worthwhile. They just sit and chat while Jordan describes scenery. Gah!
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### Author:  [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/11 "2003-11-12T19:29:49Z")
I’ve decided that I’m not buying another one until the series wraps up. Then I’ll buy all of them to then and read them in one sitting. Well, depending on how many of them there are.
The last one just flat out sucked, though, and I’ve seriously lost patience with the the series. I think he took all his notes from books 7-9 and turned them into book 10.
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/12 "2003-11-12T19:50:12Z")
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Never let a close relative edit your books!
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### Author:  [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/13 "2003-11-12T19:57:57Z")
Crossroads of Twilight has the distinction of being one of the few books I’ve ever stopped reading. 50 pages in, it was very cold and still winter, and the dudes were sitting out there in the cold, I threw it across the room. God, someone get that man an editor!
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### Author:  [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/14 "2003-11-12T20:11:21Z")
now, **Slortar,** you know very well that something happens in the most recent of the _Waste of Time_ series…
…three pages from the end. And it almost advances the plot. A little.
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### Author:  [@Mazikeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mazikeen)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/15 "2003-11-12T21:30:08Z")
I stopped reading the series after book 8…sounds like I’m not missing much, though.
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/16 "2003-11-12T22:41:53Z")
Oh, and why is he fucking writing an expansion on something that’s already a sidetrack?! I don’t CARE what Moiraine and Lan did before they met the Three Stooges! I want to get to the end of THIS story before I go back and read about things from before.
This man is so incredibly indulged by TOR. I’ve seen less spoiled 2-year-olds.
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/17 "2003-11-12T23:42:10Z")
When I read that there were seven angreals (or whatever they were called) and they were breaking at a rate of approximately one per book, that made for a good excuse to have a seven book series. When I realised that wasn’t how it was going to be, I gave up.
I don’t think I’ve been past book 6.
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### Author:  [@Naz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naz)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/18 "2003-11-13T00:22:27Z")
Hastings? Do you mind me asking where you are? Just curious; I’ve got a Hastings not ten minutes from where I live.
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### Author:  [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/19 "2003-11-13T04:22:41Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jayjay \*
> \*\*I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Never let a close relative edit your books! \*\*
Orson Scott Card’s first critic is his wife, and he is one of the most respected Sci Fi writers alive. Granted, she doesn’t edit it, but she does read everything he writes, and he listens to her suggestions.
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robert-jordan-book/212820/20 "2003-11-13T05:02:22Z")
But the difference is that Jordan’s wife is actually his _editor for publication_, IIRC. And it’s rather obvious that TOR isn’t vetting these manuscripts anymore. The man’s taken 10 huge-ass novels to tell all of what? Two years? Less? I can certainly do with more PLOT and less oh-what-fabric-is-this-Aes-Sedai’s-dress-made-of and how-does-the-sleeve-on-Rand’s-shirt-fall-just-so and what-kind-of-tree-did-Mat-just-ride-by-and-what-do-its-leaves-look-like. There is such a thing as too much. And while I don’t want some brainless swordfighting romp across the universe, it would be nice to actually get a story in through the endless barrage of background detail.
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