# New Robin Hood film

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 4, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569 "2018-05-04T09:54:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/41 "2018-05-05T14:32:52Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Something like an entire army of thousands wearing shiny plate armor might intuitively seem wrong to me because I would wonder how they could achieve that level of production.

And you’ll note that _The Two Towers_ shows precisely that level of production.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/42 "2018-05-05T15:06:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [IDMB:Goofs](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029843/goofs)  
> Anachronisms
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> > […]When the Bishop of the Black Canons puts his shoe back on in the tavern scene with Richard, it is a shoe for the left foot. Shoes which fit individual feet weren’t invented until the 1800s. In 1191, shoes were the same for each foot.

This is bullshit. Yes, there \*was \*a period where shoes weren’t left/right , but it only starts in the 1600s with the rise (heh!) of heels. Medieval shoes were NOT the same for each foot. I’ve seen enough actual examples to know.

Fuck, I hate it when people know a fact about history, but they mess it up like this, and then _spread the bullshit to other people_.

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> All the sword fighting scenes show the characters using one-handed swords. At this time, swords were two-handed swords, the necessary refinements in steel making that allowed lighter, more maneuverable swords had not been developed.

As \*\*Tamerlane \*\*has said, this is [also bullshit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knightly_sword). Look at all those one-handed-sword using mfs

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/43 "2018-05-05T15:18:01Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I love the depiction of a middle ages city that is cleaner than Disneyland.

You might be a \*little \*surprised - for one thing, medieval cities just didn’t have all the sources of general litter- plastic + paper + aluminium cans - that we do. For another, stuff like human waste was literally a commodity that sometimes even got paid for. And people were often required to keep their own streets clean.

I’m not saying a Medieval city would be Disneyland-clean, but it certainly [wouldn’t be as bad as popular imagination](http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/12/24/did_people_in_the_middle_ages_throw_excrement_out_windows.html) would have it. At least until the rapid urbanization of later periods, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/44 "2018-05-05T15:48:06Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> The guy center front looks like he enjoys blowing folks into pieces.

No room to do anything in that siege engine.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/45 "2018-05-05T16:35:06Z")

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With city hygiene, the same as with everything else in the Middle Ages, the answer is ‘it varied’. It’s almost never true to make sweeping generalisations about ‘medieval people’ or ‘medieval towns’ or in fact any aspect of medieval society.

Things varied from one country to another, from one part of a country to another, from one town to another, and from one part of a town to another. In the same place, things varied over time from one century another, and from one decade to another.

But some things were constant to all city life before the 20th century. Streets tended to be badly paved, muddy, and to have lots of horse dung. Waste water from laundry, kitchens, tanners, fullers, dyers, etc. tended to be poured out in the streets. Rivers were often filthy where they flowed through cities, and water tended to be unsafe to drink. The air tended to be smokey from large numbers of wood or coal fires.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/46 "2018-05-05T18:16:48Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> No room to do anything in that siege engine.

I had no idea what that was.  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/47 "2018-05-05T19:40:51Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Something like an entire army of thousands wearing shiny plate armor might intuitively seem wrong to me because I would wonder how they could achieve that level of production. But I have no idea if I’m right.

[Munition armor.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munition_armour)

Starting from the 15th Century - the end of the Middle Ages - armies in Europe and in Japan starting mass-producing standard, interchangeable plate armor for their soldiers. It was [simpler](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Demi-armure_MG_0793.JPG)than the fitted plated armor of the nobility, but still effective, and could pass for shiny armor onscreen.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/48 "2018-05-05T19:46:12Z")

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Too bad Robin Hood is by definition set in the late 1100s. 😃

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/49 "2018-05-05T23:18:23Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Fantastic [review by Matt Easton](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJOQtU0joTI) (medieval / war YouTuber)
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> Man, it’s so bad.

Somehow the idea of doing a review based on a trailer reminds me of [Monday’s Zits strip.](https://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/zits/s-2073677)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/50 "2018-05-05T23:46:30Z")

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> [@Doug\_K](#):
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> Somehow the idea of doing a review based on a trailer reminds me of [Monday’s Zits strip.](https://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/zits/s-2073677)

Are those _ears_?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/51 "2018-05-07T09:27:33Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> It looks like somehow is trying to make Robin Hood look like Hawkeye from the _Avengers_.

Only, Jeremy Renner is neither speeded up to impossibility, nor aiming with his dick’s eye.

> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Anyway, the concept is not a million miles away from Robin Hood in many aspects, but only in the same way as Zorro or The Phantom or The Scarlet Pimpernel, the heroic fabled outlaw shtick, you know. It’s also set in olden times, and I’d give more details but I want to keep them close to my chest. Let’s just say “mediaeval James Bond” and leave it at that.

[Águila Roja](http://www.rtve.es/television/aguila-roja/). You’re welcome (or not).

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**Author:** ![flaming\_yawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@flaming\_yawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flaming_yawn)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/52 "2018-05-07T12:26:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’ll bet Kevin Costner bankrolled this just to look better.

that made me chuckle, as I said to myself… is it as bad as Kevin Costners film?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/53 "2018-05-07T12:40:27Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> [Águila Roja](http://www.rtve.es/television/aguila-roja/). You’re welcome (or not).

Hmm. Very cool. There was a series of [The Musketeers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musketeers) made in the UK a couple of years ago that is even closer to my idea, but still different enough.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/54 "2018-05-07T13:04:48Z")

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> [@flaming\_yawn](#):
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> that made me chuckle, as I said to myself… is it as bad as Kevin Costners film?

Answer - seeing as it has no Alan Rickman in it, how can it not be even worse?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/55 "2018-05-07T14:15:18Z")

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Robin Hood, Kingsman!

A good friend, a bowl o weed, humongous cup of sprite–oh yeah, it’s happening! 🙂

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/56 "2018-05-07T17:29:20Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Answer - seeing as it has no Alan Rickman in it, how can it not be even worse?

Yes, the Coster film was terrible and only saved by Rickman as the Sheriff.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-robin-hood-film/813569/57 "2018-05-07T22:20:58Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’ll bet Kevin Costner bankrolled this just to look better.

Winner! 🙂

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