# new season of Castle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803 "2012-09-25T18:03:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/41 "2012-10-21T17:39:33Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> When you rent the movie _Feast of Love_. Allow me to summarize the movie for you.
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> Stana Katic.  
> Naked.  
> In bed with Selma Blair.
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> There’s also some stuff with other people.

Yea, but it’s Stana, not Kate 😛

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/42 "2012-10-21T19:25:36Z")

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You have keenly discriminating anatomy.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/43 "2012-10-21T21:47:48Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Monday’s episode garnered a 8.3/11, beating _Revolution_ by 2 million viewers.

\*Castle \*beat _Hawaii 5.0_ by a similar number of total viewers. However, in the key 18-49 demo _Castle_ got a 2.0/5 compared to _Revolution_’s 3.3/9, and _Hawaii 5.0_’s 2.1/5. That worries me a little bit.

> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Though I can’t bring any to mind…

Ross and Rachel, for one. They got them together and then broke them up and somewhere in there is when I stopped watching.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/44 "2012-10-21T22:41:47Z")

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_Revolution_ will be over as soon as everybody realizes just how stoopid it really is. Mildly interesting concept that they pissed all over. It’s being written by chimps, I swear. Cracked has [9 of 10](http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-dumbest-things-tv-so-far-this-season/) associated with _Revolution_.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/45 "2012-10-21T22:44:34Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> \*Castle \*beat _Hawaii 5.0_ by a similar number of total viewers. However, in the key 18-49 demo _Castle_ got a 2.0/5 compared to _Revolution_’s 3.3/9, and _Hawaii 5.0_’s 2.1/5. That worries me a little bit.

For some reason, \*Castle \*has a reputation as an “old folks’ show.” There was even a joke about it in this week’s _30 Rock_.

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**Author:** ![getitrite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@getitrite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/getitrite)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/46 "2012-10-22T16:37:04Z")

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Well as far as I’m concerned I will watch Castel and tape revolution, It’s not as exciting as I had hoped, getting to be really predictable in the fight scenes now, and the caratures of the people have gotten boring, No revolution will not last long. Castle is still very good and fresh, with the new twist of hiding the relationship, and who knows, and their reactions, all very good stuff.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/47 "2012-10-22T17:51:06Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> For some reason, \*Castle \*has a reputation as an “old folks’ show.” There was even a joke about it in this week’s _30 Rock_.

Well, they **did** title this week’s episode “Murder, He Wrote.” 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/48 "2012-10-23T22:43:35Z")

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> [@'\[Undecided](#):
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> Adrian;15612792’]This episode was better than all of last season, the playful mood fits _Castle_ much better. I hope from here on out they continue together without serious relationship drama, like gender-reversed Nick and Nora Charles.
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> I don’t quite get the bias against a will-they won’t they couple getting together anyway, is that really all based on that one _Moonlighting_ show?

I think \*Castle \*is much more comparable to _Remington Steele_, which aired about the same time as _Moonlighting_. Established and competent female detective gains partner who solves mysteries through guesses based on fiction. _Remington Steele_ also had a will-they-or-won’t-they element, and sadly jumped the shark when the characters did. Keeping the leads out of bed long enough to have an interesting story is a formula that predates any of these shows. \*Jane Eyre \*is one long exercise in keeping the leads out of bed until they can live happily ever after.  
I think the hide-the-relationship bits have been very well done in Castle, particularly the sexyhandshake.

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**Author:** ![Nothar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nothar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nothar)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/49 "2012-10-30T15:24:34Z")

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I really enjoyed the episode last night. Even having to hand-wave a lot of things regarding Castle’s own team being allowed to investigate him, I still thought it was a good episode. The 3xk story is good as it gives Castle a recurring storyline and nemesis that is a nice break occasionally from the drama around Beckett’s mom’s murder.  
This season as a whole has been really strong so far. Putting Castle and Beckett together has breathed new life into the show and has brought back a more fun dynamic reminiscent of seasons 1 and 2 (even with the serious episode last night). Stana Katic as Beckett has really impressed me as well with her growth as an actress. I did not think much of her acting when the show started but she has improved greatly and shows such great facial expressions that let’s you know exactly what the character is thinking. Plus she is super hot, which is always a bonus.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/50 "2012-10-30T15:40:36Z")

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I don’t like the premise of this ‘super smart serial killer’ - and the big clue that Castle was set up was that his drive (while having stuff ‘surgically’ deleted) did not delete the incriminating evidence well enough - I did like the rest of the episode however -

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/51 "2012-10-31T01:34:42Z")

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Yeah, I thought the frame-up job got a little ridiculous, but it was a good episode overall. I knew that they had to be bringing back some prior plotline - why else would anybody have reason to frame Castle, after all? I did think briefly of the 3XK episodes, but didn’t actually think of him as a serious suspect until he was there outside Castle’s cell. I even wondered if it might be the Senator’s doing, trying to separate Beckett from her support system in a way that couldn’t be directly traced to him.

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**Author:** ![getitrite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@getitrite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/getitrite)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/52 "2012-11-06T05:52:43Z")

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Oh Kate’s a si-fi lover ! and I counted 3 references to Firefly in this episode, and did you see his daughters costume. This was a very good episode.  
Really loved the way she dressed up for Castle, just the most amazing thing.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/53 "2012-11-06T06:34:18Z")

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Very fun episode! I loved the Firefly references and Castle’s Shatner impression.

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**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/54 "2012-11-06T08:06:25Z")

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Wait, so a single guy developed a lethal hand held energy based weapon? Get this guy a government contract!

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/55 "2012-11-06T08:17:29Z")

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Very good stuff. I liked this episode even more because it was a needed bit of lightness on the heels of one of the show’s “heavier” outings. You know, I think Castle should have been somewhat pleased that his daughter had, at the very least, chosen to dress up as an assassin. She didn’t settle for being some totally generic bikini girl in a space harem; she picked someone with marketable skills and a can-do attitude!

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/56 "2012-11-06T12:54:55Z")

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> [@getitrite](#):
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> Oh Kate’s a si-fi lover ! and I counted 3 references to Firefly in this episode, and did you see his daughters costume. This was a very good episode.  
> Really loved the way she dressed up for Castle, just the most amazing thing.

Besides the overt ones (“Shiny!”, and Castle name-dropping Joss), I got:

During the simulator, the captain mentioned “Ariel”, which is the name of Firefly episode.

The captain’s name was “Max Rennard” , which is similar to Mal Reynolds.

There was a girl dressed as Kayley wandering around the convention. She showed up a couple of times.

Becket had on blue gloves at one point, which I think they do all the time but could be taken as a reference to “Two-by-two, hands of blue.”

The “Creavers”, which sounds a lot like “Reavers”.

Also, not Firefly related, but that was Jonathan Frakes getting the signature from Castle at the beginning of the con scene. He also directed the episode.

Fun episode, indeed, but I was totally distracted looking at the crowds for more people I’d recognize.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/57 "2012-11-06T18:41:04Z")

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I imagine Frakes must have enjoyed directing Fillion’s bit from “Yesterday’s Enterprise.” 😃 Guy does a decent Patrick Stewart.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/58 "2012-11-06T20:19:51Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Guy does a decent Patrick Stewart.

And a passable Shatner.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/59 "2012-11-06T20:24:46Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> I imagine Frakes must have enjoyed directing Fillion’s bit from “Yesterday’s Enterprise.” 😃 Guy does a decent Patrick Stewart.

not catching that reference - Fillon was in that episode? I don’t recall it for some reason.

Last nites Castle was the exact reason I love Castle - blatant product placement that is totally in charactor (his graphic novel) - lots of references - pure fun. Galaxy Quest 2.0 !

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/60 "2012-11-06T21:15:45Z")

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Gonna need to see more skin going forward.

If American Horror Story Asylum can show bare asses, then Castle can too!

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