# new season of Castle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803 "2012-09-25T18:03:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/61 "2012-11-06T21:17:10Z")

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But whose?

Decisions, decisions.  
Just not Mom’s.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/62 "2012-11-06T21:50:35Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> not catching that reference - Fillon was in that episode? I don’t recall it for some reason.

No, Castle quoted it when he was sitting in the big chair on the simulator bridge:

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> Let’s make sure that history never forgets… the name… Enterprise.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/63 "2012-11-06T22:15:43Z")

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Oh, I thought that this was the best episode since the pilot. Just the right mix of tease, sexiness, humor, and mystery. I laughed out loud several times. So glad they’re doing the relationship right.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/64 "2012-11-06T22:26:59Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> No, Castle quoted it when he was sitting in the big chair on the simulator bridge:

duh - I knew that - when he said it - and promptly forgot it.

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**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rockwell)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/65 "2012-11-07T00:58:25Z")

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The weapons guy was played by [Armin Shimerman](http://http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001734/) who was Quark on Deep Space Nine.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/66 "2012-11-07T02:46:21Z")

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Truly a sweet episode. Just the right amount of cheese and tease.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/67 "2012-11-07T03:53:58Z")

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> [@Rockwell](#):
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> The weapons guy was played by [Armin Shimerman](http://http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001734/) who was Quark on Deep Space Nine.

And also Principal Snyder in that one Joss Whedon show.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/68 "2012-11-07T15:06:07Z")

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No, he was Principal Snyder on the _other_ Joss Whedon show.

StG

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/69 "2012-11-07T15:07:10Z")

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_Dollhouse_ had a Principal?

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/70 "2012-11-07T15:26:22Z")

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Maybe the other other other Joss Whedon show. Unless that’s Doctor Horrible.

StG

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/71 "2012-11-07T15:58:50Z")

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I figured he was reffering to buffy - I don’t recall a principal on Dollhouse or Firefly -

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/72 "2012-11-07T18:30:21Z")

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**Simster** - I think **JSexton** was referring to Buffy, regarding Armin Shimerman. I think Castle was referring to Firefly when he was talking about SciFi shows and says “the Joss Whedon show” as they’re walking into the spaceship at the Con.

StG

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/73 "2012-11-07T19:15:51Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Simster** - I think **JSexton** was referring to Buffy, regarding Armin Shimerman. I think Castle was referring to Firefly when he was talking about SciFi shows and says “the Joss Whedon show” as they’re walking into the spaceship at the Con.
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> StG

Agreed on both counts - if we could just get Joss to do Star Trek - life would be complete.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/74 "2012-11-07T19:41:46Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Still dumb tho - if you can get the flash drive and stuff IN the doll without breaking it - you can get it out as well.

AMEN! That was the most ridiculous element of the ridiculous subplot with the Captain. Would have been nice for Beckett to have pointed this out afterwards, at least, so he could be the dumbass who broke the doll and the dumbass who did it unnecessarily.

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/75 "2012-11-09T16:08:11Z")

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Molly Quinn as a bikini-clad space assassin?

I’ll be in my bunk.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/76 "2012-11-09T16:54:06Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Simster** - I think **JSexton** was referring to Buffy, regarding Armin Shimerman. I think Castle was referring to Firefly when he was talking about SciFi shows and says “the Joss Whedon show” as they’re walking into the spaceship at the Con.
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> StG

Agreed on both counts. I was just borrowing Castle’s line with a slightly different context.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/77 "2012-11-09T20:02:21Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Agreed on both counts - if we could just get Joss to do Star Trek - life would be complete.

But which character would he kill off? McCoy? Scotty? Uhura?

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/78 "2012-11-09T20:10:47Z")

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> [@FlyingDragonFan](#):
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> Molly Quinn as a bikini-clad space assassin?
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> I’ll be in my bunk.

That WAS eye-opening, wasn’t it? There’s something about her facial features that give her a very innocent, wide-eyed look. Baby-faced, I’d call it - it made the transformation all the more shocking.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/79 "2012-11-12T21:31:26Z")

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So the series they were mocking… _Andromeda_, right? I mean, it was definitely a pastiche of a number of SF series, but other than Trek that seemed to be the primary inspiration.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/80 "2012-11-12T21:37:50Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So the series they were mocking… _Andromeda_, right? I mean, it was definitely a pastiche of a number of SF series, but other than Trek that seemed to be the primary inspiration.

Hmm, I didn’t see that, and I can’t say that I see it now. In fact, it almost seemed like they were being careful to avoid making it too much like any real show.

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