# new season of Castle **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803 "2012-09-25T18:03:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/81 "2012-11-12T21:43:42Z")
Cancelled first season - _Firefly_ Flash warp - _BSG_ Cheesy chatch phrase - _Galaxy Quest_ Hammy star - _Star Trek:TOS_ It was a pastiche of any number of shows. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/82 "2012-11-12T21:48:18Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > **Simster** - I think **JSexton** was referring to Buffy, regarding Armin Shimerman. I think Castle was referring to Firefly when he was talking about SciFi shows and says “the Joss Whedon show” as they’re walking into the spaceship at the Con. > > StG Just before that line he also referred to the show as (from memory): “The show was on, what?, 10 years ago and ran for 12 episodes.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/83 "2012-11-12T22:15:21Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Cancelled first season - _Firefly_ > Flash warp - _BSG_ > Cheesy chatch phrase - _Galaxy Quest_ > Hammy star - _Star Trek:TOS_ > > It was a pastiche of any number of shows. Agreed, but all of those shows are well-remembered and highly regarded; whereas \*Andromeda \*had that cheesy off-brand Trek ambiance, never received any critical respect or geek cred, and has largely been forgotten. In terms of geek culture \*qua \*geek culture, I think it’s the closest match. Plus, the captain was seriously Sorboesque. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/84 "2012-11-13T20:00:51Z")
I have to say last night’s episode (the documentary of the rock band) was by far the worst episode ever. I hated it and barely made it through. Camera shake? Got it. Ridiculous mugging for camera? Check! Boring plot? Yuppers. Just-in-time call from higher-ups allowing the filming to continue? Oh, yeah, baby! Hell, in on scene where everyone is sitting in the station discussing the case, the docu crew would have had to had at least 8 cameras to get all the angles they were showing. And the crew would have had to have been invisible. It sucked. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/85 "2012-11-13T20:18:14Z")
Agreed. The ‘hamming it up for the camera’ was embarrassing. Plus they music from ‘the band’ was god-awful. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/86 "2012-11-13T20:20:18Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > I have to say last night’s episode (the documentary of the rock band) was by far the worst episode ever. I hated it and barely made it through. I stopped watching it after the first few minutes. I can understand why they’d want to try something like that, but no, it doesn’t work for a show like Castle. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/87 "2012-11-13T20:50:44Z")
Another “Andromeda” connection was through the Creavers, described as beast who would eat your face off. When that show came out, one of the characters was a type of creature who were known for being crazy monsters that eat people. He had found religion, and was reformed. He was in for season 1 before they wrote him out. IIRC, he went crazy and ate someone. Or else they went to a planet of those monsters, and he gave his life defending them. Something like that, I forget. I was thrown by the working laser weapon, the size of a child’s water pistol. Um, yeah. But otherwise, a very fun episode. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/88 "2012-11-13T22:47:49Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > I have to say last night’s episode (the documentary of the rock band) was by far the worst episode ever. I hated it and barely made it through. I hated it, too. I don’t mind gimmick episodes–last week’s sci-fi fandom show was great–but this one just fell flat. Esposito and the Captain were way too over-the-top. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Musky\_Moon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@Musky\_Moon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musky_Moon)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/89 "2012-11-14T02:38:06Z")
I adore this show. That said, the last episode was hands down the worst episode yet. Cheesy and clunky. I did giggle at Castle’s “fade to black … Queue music” bit. He even hummed the theme music. That bit was the only amusing part of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/90 "2012-11-14T03:53:26Z")
Ponyboy!!! ---
**Author:** ![phxjcc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phxjcc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phxjcc)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/91 "2012-11-14T05:53:30Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > I have to say last night’s episode (the documentary of the rock band) was by far the worst episode ever. I hated it and barely made it through. > > Camera shake? Got it. > Ridiculous mugging for camera? Check! > Boring plot? Yuppers. > Just-in-time call from higher-ups allowing the filming to continue? Oh, yeah, baby! > > Hell, in on scene where everyone is sitting in the station discussing the case, the docu crew would have had to had at least 8 cameras to get all the angles they were showing. And the crew would have had to have been invisible. > > It sucked. :mad: I was waiting for Fonzi’s leather jacket to come out. Horrid, horrid waste of electrons. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/92 "2012-11-14T06:10:15Z")
So it wasn’t just me then. I was watching this episode and thinking they had gone a gimmick too far. The show needs to take a step back and have a couple of episodes that are just about them being detectives and solving a murder. ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/93 "2012-11-14T08:46:47Z")
I did like the bit where boss lady chews Castle out for clowning around behind her “on camera”. Fillion likes to photo-bomb people in real life. Castle doing the little da-da-daa-da-da-duh riff was funny too. Other than that, it sucked fairly hard. The way the show is running, we should be in for a good episode next week though. **crosses fingers for scantily clad Katic** ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/94 "2012-11-14T10:47:51Z")
Yup. I just finished watching the mockumentary episode. Well, I sort of finished. I wandered off to medicate my cats around 1/3 through and didn’t bother going back to where I started missing it. I don’t think I’ve ever lost interest in a Castle show before, and on the heels of the scifi episode which I absolutely loved. I think it might have had some teeth if it really was documentary-style. But with the camera clearly knowing the path of the characters, being able to lead them from place to place, and with obvious three-camera scenes, come on. I remember way back when ER did a live episode, it was fantastic, especially when Clooney gave the Cubs score in real time. Sooo Cooool. [/geek] This Castle episode could have been nearly as good if they did it in real-time one-take style, goofs and all, because that’s what a documentary would have been like. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/95 "2012-11-14T12:48:13Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Another “Andromeda” connection was through the Creavers, described as beast who would eat your face off. When that show came out, one of the characters was a type of creature who were known for being crazy monsters that eat people. He had found religion, and was reformed. He was in for season 1 before they wrote him out. IIRC, he went crazy and ate someone. Or else they went to a planet of those monsters, and he gave his life defending them. Something like that, I forget. No, I took the creavers as a definite Firefly reference: > [@](#): > > Simon: I don’t understand. > Zoe: You’ve never heard of Reavers? > Simon: Well, campfire stories of men gone savage on the edge of space, killing and— > Zoe: They’re not stories. > Simon: What happens if they board us? > Zoe: If they take the ship, they’ll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we’re very very lucky, they’ll do it in that order. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/96 "2012-11-14T16:31:59Z")
Huh, I rather liked this last episode. I enjoyed how everyone treated the camera differently, even the ones that totally lost their shit. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/97 "2012-11-15T19:50:44Z")
I liked it well enough. It certainly wasn’t among the best “a camera crew intrudes upon the lives of our heroes” episodes that I’ve ever come across – the “X-Cops” episode of _The X-Files_ comes to mind as one that did work very well – but it had its moments. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/98 "2012-11-21T15:31:54Z")
Finally got around to watching the last two. The documentary episode wasn’t that bad. I knew who the killer was from the opening scene, but other than that it was ok. This weeks episode, however, was a definite step down. Don’t even locked cell phones have the ability to call 9-1-1? ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803/99 "2012-11-22T00:38:43Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Don’t even locked cell phones have the ability to call 9-1-1? Nathan Fillion tweeted the other day: [QUOTE=@NathanFillion] “@iMenchi:Watching Castle. most cell phones make an emergency call even while locked.” Pull not the thread, lest the sweater unravel. [/QUOTE] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-season-of-castle/635803.md?page=4)