# New series on AMC - Humans **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784 "2015-06-29T15:19:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/141 "2015-08-12T20:05:28Z")
> [@Hodge](#): > > Anybody catch the original Swedish version? The premise of the show fascinates me and I’d like to watch it but I’d rather check out the better adaptation. For instance, I LOVED the Swedish/Danish show “The Bridge” but was lukewarm with the US series. I felt exactly the same way about both _Wollander_ and _The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo_, though the former remake was British rather than American. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/142 "2015-08-12T21:18:52Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Her partner was being a complete and utter asshole, the machine was not the problem there. Oh well that’s alright, then: bring on the walking dildos. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/143 "2015-08-12T21:43:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Her partner was being a complete and utter asshole, the machine was not the problem there. I didn’t think he was. I am wondering how good the next series will be without William Hurt and Odie. For me, they were the most interesting part of the show; Hurt was amazing to watch, and the idea of him caring for Odie, the synth who still occasionally had memories of the late Mrs Hurt, while still completely knowing that Odie wasn’t real, was one of the few new areas the show explored. I didn’t mind that they explored a lot of old tropes too - the ground is well-trodden, anyway; they did do it pretty well. The scene where [spoiler] was shown to be a synth was really well shot. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/144 "2015-08-12T21:54:40Z")
A few oddities that stick in my mind:[ul] [li]Mia/Anita’s fascination with the moon. It was touched on a couple of times in the first episode, but I don’t recall it being mentioned since.[/li][li]The whole ideal of “sharing”. Color me paranoid, but if I were designing an entity that could learn from experience and adapt to suit, probably one of the last things I’d want it to have is the ability to exchange information.[/li][li]The backstory to the rather large (micro)chip on Niska’s shoulder. We’re told that her “father” treated her badly, but I’ve read in this thread and elsewhere that there’s a lot more to it. Perhaps it’s in the material that AMC cut, but whatever the reason, what we’re given isn’t particularly satisfactory.[/li][/ul]Despite the above, and taken as a whole, it’s been a pretty good ride so far. It’s managed to hold my attention and have me looking forward to the next installment, which at my age is a not-inconsiderable accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/145 "2015-08-12T22:24:25Z")
Niska - wasn’t it her learning experiences of humans in the whore house that led her to current anger issues? Showing a child the moon… hmmm, it’s ringing bells but I don’t remember where from, Some cultures do this? ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/146 "2015-08-12T22:29:57Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I am wondering how good the next series will be without William Hurt and Odie. For me, they were the most interesting part of the show; Hurt was amazing to watch, and the idea of him caring for Odie, the synth who still occasionally had memories of the late Mrs Hurt, while still completely knowing that Odie wasn’t real, was one of the few new areas the show explored. Agree, Hurt was excellent. The touching relationship of two fairly broken _friends_, both looking back because it was all they had. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/147 "2015-08-12T22:53:08Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Niska - wasn’t it her learning experiences of humans in the whore house that led her to current anger issues? > > Showing a child the moon… hmmm, it’s ringing bells but I don’t remember where from, Some cultures do this? The whorehouse would definitely be a factor, but it’s my understanding that she considered meat-humans to be one level below slime mold long before she got snatched. (As a sidenote, it’s further confirmation of Sophie’s lovability that Niska will allow her to sit in her lap.) ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/148 "2015-08-13T14:33:44Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > [li]The backstory to the rather large (micro)chip on Niska’s shoulder. We’re told that her “father” treated her badly, but I’ve read in this thread and elsewhere that there’s a lot more to it. Perhaps it’s in the material that AMC cut, but whatever the reason, what we’re given isn’t particularly satisfactory.[/li] > [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Niska - wasn’t it her learning experiences of humans in the whore house that led her to current anger issues? Niska told William Hurt that her father “sometimes didn’t treat her like a child”, implying that he’d done Adult Mode stuff with her. She said she didn’t tell the others about it. And then, her brother hid her in a whorehouse. She’s angry and cynical because she’s basically the android equivalent of an incest survivor. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/149 "2015-08-17T03:55:42Z")
And now Niska has the power to unilaterally grant sapience to millions of Synths and massively disrupt Human civilization. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/150 "2015-08-17T12:25:42Z")
I, for one, welcome our Adult Mode overlords … ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/151 "2015-08-17T19:45:08Z")
Yes, it’s all over, folks. Fast-forward millennia ahead to when the bored robots search for any frozen humans they can find, or, failing that, any frozen robots who actually lived in the time of the humans. I recommend checking out helicopters stuck in the glacial ice over Manhattan. (The finale wasn’t earth-shattering, but it was competently done, and I do look forward to the show’s second season.) ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/152 "2015-08-18T16:14:24Z")
Finally saw the S1 finale last night - I liked it. I thought certain things were left open in the right way, and certain things were closed up. Now my question is - will we even need to see the family next season? They’re really not relevant to the story anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/153 "2015-08-18T18:41:10Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Finally saw the S1 finale last night - I liked it. I thought certain things were left open in the right way, and certain things were closed up. > Now my question is - will we even need to see the family next season? They’re really not relevant to the story anymore. One of the family members could suffer an accident, and the rest desperately work with the synths to have the family member “Leo-ed.” That whole part of the situation–turning humans into immortal (maybe?) cyber-people–was barely touched on, in the first season. There’s a lot of scope for story-telling in that aspect of _Humans_-world. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/154 "2015-08-18T20:24:10Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Now my question is - will we even need to see the family next season? They’re really not relevant to the story anymore. They (probably?) have a copy of the “make synths sentient” code on that flash drive in the closet. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/155 "2015-08-18T23:42:19Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > They (probably?) have a copy of the “make synths sentient” code on that flash drive in the closet. They do, and I doubt Prof Hobb & co are finished with them. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/156 "2015-08-19T00:27:31Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Now my question is - will we even need to see the family next season? They’re really not relevant to the story anymore. Well, mum is the only one who suspects Niska pulled a fast one so I suppose they’ll be in on the chase. Plus the little daughter seems to be the only one who can emotionally connect to her. Though I’d give it a good go. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/157 "2015-08-19T02:36:00Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > They do, and I doubt Prof Hobb & co are finished with them. I just meant that Niska may or may not have actually copied the code to the flash drive she gave them. We see that Niska surreptitiously made her own copy; maybe she decided that she wanted to have a monopoly on it. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/158 "2016-10-06T22:27:15Z")
BOOM! S2 starts at the end of the month in the UK - 8 more epi’s to add to the 8 of S1 Underrated: [Humans (TV series) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_%28TV_series%29) ---
**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/159 "2016-10-07T14:27:39Z")
Great news !!! I’ve been waiting for Season 2 to start. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784/160 "2016-10-07T14:44:31Z")
I don’t think we in the US get to see it until sometime next year. And the weird thing is that this show seems to cover territory similar to HBO’s Westworld. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-series-on-amc-humans/723784.md?page=9)