# New server even slower than the old one? Temporary? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 20, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687 "2007-01-20T06:16:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/41 "2007-01-21T15:29:51Z")
[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven] it may have to do with your own computer/connection [/QUOTE] Considering the large number of people with the same exact complaint, I find this highly unlikely. Posters have been complaining for _years_ about this exact same issue, through every software upgrade and tweak, and every single time one of the mods or admins comes in to suggest it might be on their end. Can we finally admit that 99.999999% of the time it is not a problem with the user’s computer or connection and hang up this tired excuse once and for all? ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/42 "2007-01-21T15:40:15Z")
I ignore the friday when reporting this. Pages have been slow loading at times, and I’m recieving errors of no respose from the server. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/43 "2007-01-21T15:42:57Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Screw the rodents! It’s time we modernized to greyhounds! [/QUOTE] Buses? Stick to our furry friends I say ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/44 "2007-01-21T16:03:27Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Buses? Stick to our furry friends I say [/QUOTE] Heh. I suppose if TPTB decided to go deluxe (ha!) we could try Thoroughbreds, although Jerry might object to the output maintenance requirements. ---
**Author:** ![KlondikeGeoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@KlondikeGeoff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KlondikeGeoff)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/45 "2007-01-21T16:10:51Z")
[QUOTE=Musicat] Seriously, folks, this is getting ridiculous. Is the CPU maxed out? Copius RAM not being recognized? Memory allocation compromised? Some background task running that hogs the CPU? Has our server been taken over by porn site storage? Are SQL pointers bashed? Are the gamma rays attacking the marigolds? Did something overflow? Is a massive internal repair process going on? Re-indexing? Backing up? Slowing down? Hamster chow lower in calories? Hamsters mating with the Capybaras? [/QUOTE] **Musicat** , I think the answer is “yes.” You nailed it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/46 "2007-01-21T16:16:20Z")
Since the problem seems to happen sporadically, you don’t suppose the root cause is bandwidth? Perhaps the SDMB needs a bigger “pipe”? I dunno, just throwing out ideas here. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/47 "2007-01-21T16:37:47Z")
One way to have only a couple of occasional “somewhat slow” experiences would be to have a limited number of experiences combined with luck. If, for example, just for example, say — if a person logs on three or four times for a few minutes each, reads a few threads and doesn’t post much, then that person stands a chance of getting his page or two to read while the server is zippy, with only occasional somewhat slowness. On the other hand, posters who are online for hours at a time, reading and posting copiously might tend to have a better grasp of the reality of the situation. One might argue that they are also a possible _cause_ of the situation by virtue of their activity, but if that argument were true, it would imply that the server/communications specifications are inadequate. Are there any mods or admins who spend a lot of time on the board reading and posting without experiencing more than one or two occasions of somewhat slowness? ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/48 "2007-01-21T19:03:58Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] Since the problem seems to happen sporadically, you don’t suppose the root cause is bandwidth? Perhaps the SDMB needs a bigger “pipe”? I dunno, just throwing out ideas here. [/QUOTE] Given that it either seems fast or very slow, and those two states can rapidly alternate, that seems unlikely. If it was the size of the “pipe” then it seems to me the quality of the response should be more consistent; uniformly fast when not many people are using it, uniformly slow when a lot of people are using it. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/49 "2007-01-21T19:22:43Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] Edit function? Oh man, GD and the Pit are fucked. . . . [/QUOTE] Not to worry. Posts are supposed to editable for only five minutes after being posted. After that, we still have to scrounge up virgins to offer to the mods. Is there any chance that some of the slowness we attribute to the board is actually the fault of our own ISPs? (Mine is fond of occasionally giving me the boot for “inactivity”.) ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/50 "2007-01-21T19:50:21Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] Is there any chance that some of the slowness we attribute to the board is actually the fault of our own ISPs? (Mine is fond of occasionally giving me the boot for “inactivity”.) [/QUOTE] Not unless we all use the same ISP or all ISPs use the same software. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/51 "2007-01-21T19:51:38Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] After that, we still have to scrounge up virgins to offer to the mods. [/QUOTE] But they’re in _Chicago._ How will we find any there? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/52 "2007-01-21T22:10:37Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] But they’re in _Chicago._ How will we find any [virgins] there? [/QUOTE] What about Oprah? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/53 "2007-01-21T22:28:04Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] What about Oprah? [/QUOTE] I got nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/54 "2007-01-22T13:58:08Z")
I would imagine that in these early days when there is still tweaking to be done that it will not be a perfect experience for a while. You might consider this more testing while it all gets sorted out. We do ask for your patience while we move towards improvement. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/55 "2007-01-22T15:02:57Z")
I fixed my problem, I had cookies blocked from 208.100.26.199. My apologies to the capybaras and other miscellaneous rodents. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/56 "2007-01-22T15:46:07Z")
**Tuba Diva** > [@](#): > > I would imagine that in these early days when there is still tweaking to be done that it will not be a perfect experience for a while. Was that copied and pasted from 2006? Or was it 2005? 2004? 2003? The Renaissance? ---
**Author:** ![JimOfAllTrades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@JimOfAllTrades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimOfAllTrades)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/57 "2007-01-22T17:14:14Z")
Tuba, Does it help any if we continue to report problems as they come up, or do you want to get through the shakedown first? If Jerry is still actively working on the server it might just be an irritation to see the same reports over and over, but maybe he wants them to help track things down? For what it’s worth, I’ve been seeing the same kind of thing as others have reported. Very good speed (virtually instantaneous) on 9 out 10 clicks, then a complete stop for anywhere from 1 up to 3 or 4 minutes. Then everything is fine again, lather, rinse, repeat. Changing forums does seem to hit the stall more often than not, but searching seems fast all the time so far. Let is know if we can help, and believe me when I say I appreciate all the work a transition like this can take. Tell Jerry THANKS! for me. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/58 "2007-01-22T19:52:03Z")
For my part, I’m not noticing any improvement in speed. Nor in accessibility – I must have gotten a “Network Error” message at least half a dozen times today. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/59 "2007-01-22T21:27:40Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] For my part, I’m not noticing any improvement in speed. Nor in accessibility – I must have gotten a “Network Error” message at least half a dozen times today. [/QUOTE] That is my experience also. I would say 6 out of 10 times I try to access the message board, after a long wait I get a “server not responding” error. (DSL, Mac OSX, browser Safari 2.0.4) ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-server-even-slower-than-the-old-one-temporary/388687/60 "2007-01-22T21:34:31Z")
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