# New show: Forever **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864 "2014-09-29T14:34:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/21 "2014-10-03T00:11:50Z")
Just watched the first two eps. I liked it – he is easy on the eyes, and he has an agreeable voice, and acts reasonably intelligent. Nice role for Judd Hirsch, too. Love the antique shop and stuff there. Yes, I agree, they could have waited to introduce the 2000 year old man, but that’s a minor quibble. He must have had a gross of driver’s licenses, etc, made up as soon as he got the original, as well as forged duplicate credit cards, ss cards, insurance cards, etc. He probably has a lot of saved up money…long-term investments, etc, and so he buys clothes in bulk. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/22 "2014-10-03T10:56:38Z")
Last night hubby and i watch all three episodes and enjoyed it. Hubby thought it was Castle except Morgan actually has a legitimate reason for being in on an investigation. Ioan is yummy but he will always be Hornblower to me. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/23 "2014-10-03T12:11:20Z")
Oh, Morgan is way smarter and more observant than Castle. And I guess I’ll have to get hold of that Horatio Hornblower series for the long cold winter nights coming soon. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/24 "2014-10-08T05:46:13Z")
Another episode, this one almost a straight police procedural. Morgan didn’t die, we got a bit more of his backstory, some interesting interaction with some of the other characters, the plot twisted round a bit before the final reveal. Yeah, nicely done. Especially since no, Morgan won’t have to die every episode and we don’t have to always have the Adam subplot. Presumably those two things will be revisited. Yep, like it for now. Interested to see how it continues. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/25 "2014-10-08T06:25:02Z")
Nicely summed up, **Broomstick**. I still love it. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/26 "2014-10-08T07:46:43Z")
It is pretty Highlander-esque. Not just the immortals thing, but how each episode is structured so that the plot jumps between a modern-day story and ties it into a flashback to a historical period. Needs more sword-fights and Queen, though. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/27 "2014-10-08T10:54:49Z")
I’m enjoying it a lot. I’m looking forward to his partner slowly learning his secret. The final reveal of that will probably be Adam related. One thing that bugs the living shit out of me. Abe is played so New York Jewish but why? He as a found as a baby in a concentration camp and presumably raised by Morgan, traveling the world. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/28 "2014-10-08T11:03:16Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Abe is played so New York Jewish but why? Because it’s Judd Hirsch. That’s the only accent he has. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/29 "2014-10-08T17:05:48Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > One thing that bugs the living shit out of me. Abe is played so New York Jewish but why? He as a found as a baby in a concentration camp and presumably raised by Morgan, traveling the world. The new episode had him proposing to Blondie in a New York museum and a previous episode had him waxing lyrical about how “new” a particular area of New York was. He may have had the time to travel the world, but the show seems to be indicating that he’s mostly a homebody. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/30 "2014-10-08T17:45:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The new episode had him proposing to Blondie in a New York museum and a previous episode had him waxing lyrical about how “new” a particular area of New York was. > > He may have had the time to travel the world, but the show seems to be indicating that he’s mostly a homebody. But in the “Adam” episode Judd says he’s tired of running away all the time. They spoke of all the places they’ve run to and lived in. And, as I said, Abe is from Europe as is Abbie. The show made it seem to me that they were world travelers. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/31 "2014-10-08T17:56:04Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I don’t. Only difference is no swords and cheesy electrical special effects for cutting off heads. . Well, so far, there’s only one… (and a mysterious caller). It _is_ quite a bit like New Amsterdam, but nothing AT ALL like Highlander. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/32 "2014-10-08T18:11:52Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > But in the “Adam” episode Judd says he’s tired of running away all the time. They spoke of all the places they’ve run to and lived in. And, as I said, Abe is from Europe as is Abbie. The show made it seem to me that they were world travelers. Hm, true. Assuming that the show goes for many seasons, I suspect that we’ll see that over the 65 years of Abe’s life, Morgan has spent 100 years abroad and 65 years in New York. They’ll casually mention the 20 years that the pair spent living in Paris, but then film something from every decade in New York, because (presumably) they’re filming in New York and it makes finding sets easy. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/33 "2014-10-08T18:44:27Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Hm, true. > > Assuming that the show goes for many seasons, I suspect that we’ll see that over the 65 years of Abe’s life, Morgan has spent 100 years abroad and 65 years in New York. They’ll casually mention the 20 years that the pair spent living in Paris, but then film something from every decade in New York, because (presumably) they’re filming in New York and it makes finding sets easy. They are definitely filming scenes in NYC. They filmed at our local park (Queens - Richmond Hill/Kew Gardens) last week. _The Following_ was filming there yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/34 "2014-10-08T18:50:44Z")
We’re enjoying it. One thing that struck me from last week’s episode - if Henry had been killed while being held hostage, with all those cops and cameras on him, how would his body disappearing have gone? Would it wait to disappear until no one was watching, or would it just blink out in front of a dozen witnesses? My husband’s quibble has already been mentioned - he also thinks they threw the 2000 year old Adam twist in far too early. I’m going to wait and see on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/35 "2014-10-08T18:59:28Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > But in the “Adam” episode Judd says he’s tired of running away all the time. They spoke of all the places they’ve run to and lived in. And, as I said, Abe is from Europe as is Abbie. The show made it seem to me that they were world travelers. They may have lived mostly in New York City, but under different identities. They may have lived all over the world, but visited New York City frequently. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/36 "2014-10-09T12:41:32Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > We’re enjoying it. One thing that struck me from last week’s episode - if Henry had been killed while being held hostage, with all those cops and cameras on him, how would his body disappearing have gone? Would it wait to disappear until no one was watching, or would it just blink out in front of a dozen witnesses? Good question. The preview for next week has Morgan being caught buying heroin - I wonder if he will suicide to prevent the cops from booking him and then causing problems with his cop partner. If he was inclined differently, he’d be a hell of a secret agent. If he ever gets captured, eats the cyanide pill, disappears, leaving the bad guys with no body and he still remembers everything. (or, on a darker note, he’d be the perfect suicide bomber). ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/37 "2014-10-09T18:33:01Z")
On a very superficial level it’s a lot like Rizzoli & Isles. Actress who played attorney on Law & Order plays a police detective who solves crimes with a well educated medical examiner. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/38 "2014-10-09T18:44:50Z")
This week’s episode was pretty weak. She was beaten? No, she fell down the stairs! Accident? No, someone else was here! She was pushed! MURDER!! She was poisened! MURDER. Except…not murder, suicide. Found not by science but a memory from the M.E.'s distant past that would have him interpret clues that would not have made sense to any other living soul. They way he regarded the body…would have made a lot more sense if he had an affair with her when she was young. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/39 "2014-10-09T19:13:38Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > This week’s episode was pretty weak. > > She was beaten? No, she fell down the stairs! Accident? No, someone else was here! She was pushed! MURDER!! She was poisened! MURDER. Except…not murder, suicide. Found not by science but a memory from the M.E.'s distant past that would have him interpret clues that would not have made sense to any other living soul. I agree, there was more conclusion jumping than in an episode of House. Morgan is going to lose his “I’m never wrong” schtick if he has to change his mind half a dozen times an episode. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864/40 "2014-10-09T19:29:54Z")
I’m less concerned about that and more concerned by the question of, “What does Martinez do?” The actress somehow has the gravitas that, so far, she doesn’t come across as nothing more than eye candy. But that has nothing to do with the way she’s written. So far, I don’t know that she’s done a single thing beyond cheerleading for team Morgan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-show-forever/699864.md?page=3)