# New shows you have seen, liked or disliked? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 30, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613 "2010-09-30T16:15:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dan\_Norder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@Dan\_Norder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dan_Norder)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/41 "2010-10-03T17:24:34Z")
_Outsourced_ is just not funny and fairly offensive here and there. I think the basic premise could have worked, but the writing is poor. (And, frankly, just about anytime I see Diedrich Bader I expect massive suckage that only occasionally can be overcome by others actors. Not sure if it’s his acting, a bad agent hooking him up with garbage, or what.) _Raising Hope_ is alright. Some laughs. I hope they don’t rely too much on making fun of poor people. _Running Wilde_ fluctuates between laugh out loud moments and seeing where they were trying to go but thinking it misfired. Still, it’s the closest thing to _Arrested Development_ we’ve had on the air for a while. The actress playing the daughter is good, the mother (Felicity?!) seems miscast but might work out. If we count those shows that started in the summer and are still ongoing: _The Good Guys_ is a police action-buddy-comedy with entertaining characters (main ast and guest stars) and brilliant writing all around. I call it man fantasy entertainment, but the better half loves it too. _Haven_ was something we tried to watch and found it occasionally entertaining, but good grief the plots just made no sense whatsoever. When he hit the episode with… the woman who changes shape to become beautiful, and mind controls men to have sex with her (not that that should be needed), and gives birth within a day, AND somehow this causes the men to rapidly age IF the baby is nearby AND de-age otherwise, all treated as if that made complete sense… we just had to stop watching to prevent permanent brain damage. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/42 "2010-10-03T17:56:30Z")
> [@Dan\_Norder](#): > > _Raising Hope_ is alright. Some laughs. I hope they don’t rely too much on making fun of poor people. I don’t see the family as poor. Lower middle class, maybe – like _Roseanne_. Burt has his own business, Jimmy has a job. I don’t remember if Virginia works or not. They’re a paycheck-to-paycheck family, but so is probably half the country. 🙂 But it’s all relative. Compared to shows like _Modern Family_, I suppose the Chances are poor. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/43 "2010-10-03T21:36:41Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > I thought about Nikita, but… for both the original and American films, the appeal was: wildly untamable woman is ‘put to death’ but then is recruited by spy/assassin organization which has to both tame her, and also take advantage of her lack of morals… but in taming her, they inadvertently give her morals that interfere with her job, which make her desire to escape. > > Whereas a TV show seems to be inevitably focused on just being a generic spy/assassin show. Granted the new one makes her a double agent, but still…not either film. Might as well have just made it a new premise and saved the licensing fees. She’s not a double agent, she’s a former agent who had morals that interfered with her job so she escaped and is now focused on bringing them down. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/44 "2010-10-03T22:14:48Z")
_Raising Hope_ is the only new network show I’ve watched so far that I’ve enjoyed. And yeah, they are basically Roseanne level lower middle class. Undereducated with no real hope of improvement. A lot like the other Garcia sitcom, _My Name is Earl_ with the “redneck” vibe turned down a number of notches. Earl & Randy were surely “poor”, even by real-life standards despite the lottery winnings. I’m hoping _Outsourced_ dies quickly so that _Parks & Rec_ returns quicker than planned. Other “new” things I’m recording, though I haven’t gotten to watching yet, _The Event_, _Terriers_, and _Boardwalk Empire_. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/45 "2010-10-04T02:46:18Z")
> [@Apollyon](#): > > ETA: Oops… don’t actually know if this is a network show as specified in the OP… Not only is it not a network show, I don’t think it’s even available in the US; it’s a Show Case “original.” And yeah, it shows promise. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/46 "2010-10-04T03:08:15Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > She’s not a double agent, she’s a former agent who had morals that interfered with her job so she escaped and is now focused on bringing them down. Yes, nit duly picked. Still could have saved themselves the licensing fee. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/47 "2010-10-04T06:36:49Z")
Another who thinks “Raising Hope” is actually pretty funny so far. We like “The Whole Truth” but things look bleak - supposedly, if ratings don’t pick up on the next (third) airing, it will be canceled. “Blue Bloods” is a cliche, filled with cliches - too bad, as it has a good cast - simply crappy writers and implausible, stupid premise of every single family member being oh-so-important in NYC police/DA’s office. “Undercovers” is sort of a black Hart to Hart, but decent so far. “Law And Order: Los Angeles” is OK - another Law and Order formula, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/48 "2010-10-04T20:50:36Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > > [@TBG](#): > > > > She’s not a double agent, she’s a former agent who had morals that interfered with her job so she escaped and is now focused on bringing them down. > > Yes, nit duly picked. Still could have saved themselves the licensing fee. It’s not a nitpick, it’s pointing out she’s exactly what you said she should be, just at a later part of the story. And I would be surprised if the Nikita license cost more than they gained from the number of extra eyeballs tuning in that wouldn’t have without it. Show’s doing pretty well – for a CW show anyway. ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/49 "2010-10-04T21:18:22Z")
I am praying really, really hard that \*\*Running Wilde \*\*gets better and people start watching it. God I love Will Arnett. The daughter character is actually quite good. I think the Felicity girl could work. I think Arnett’s the funniest man in America. And if it does get canned, I have Parks & Rec to look forward to…and in 25 years, his and Amy Poehler’s kid should be the funniest thing alive. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/50 "2010-10-07T01:16:35Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > I am praying really, really hard that \*\*Running Wilde \*\*gets better and people start watching it. God I love Will Arnett. The daughter character is actually quite good. I think the Felicity girl could work. I think Arnett’s the funniest man in America. And if it does get canned, I have Parks & Rec to look forward to…and in 25 years, his and Amy Poehler’s kid should be the funniest thing alive. That or to rebel against mommy and daddy he (or is it she?) will be the LEAST funniest thing alive. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/51 "2010-10-07T13:23:53Z")
Will Arnett works best as a brother or sidekick. His goofball, rich, self centered character only works so far with me. I know it is a sophmore show, but I love, love, love Parks and Recreation. The only “lunker” was when Will Arnett guest starred. Ron Swanson! ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613/52 "2010-10-07T15:35:51Z")
Ron Swanson is one of the three best characters on TV right now. He, as far as I can tell, has never stepped out of character even for a moment. He loves bacon covered turkey legs and sleeping with his hot ex wife Tammy (who is his wife in real life). Remember that woodworking shop of his? Wikipedia tells me he’s a woodworker in real life, and has even released a DVD. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-shows-you-have-seen-liked-or-disliked/555613.md?page=2)