# New Smashing Pumpkins Album
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 22, 2001, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796 "2001-11-22T19:47:13Z")
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### Author:  [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2001, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/1 "2001-11-22T19:47:13Z")
The Smashing Pumpkins Greatest Hits album came out on Tuesday, and I got a copy.
What a misnamed album (actually two). This is a double disc set that contains **12 previously unreleased Pumpkins songs!** That’s like a whole new album! Add to that all of their big hits, and you get this album, for $14 at Best Buy!
Wow, it’s so cool.
Album 1 is called Rotten Apples, which is all the hits plus 2 new songs.
Album 2 is called Judas O, which is a bunch of B-Sides and 10 new songs. Bad ass!
What do you guys think of the new songs? I haven’t listened to them enough to make a real call on them yet, but **Untitled** off of Rotten Apples is a really cool song in the style of the pumpkins in their Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie era.
LC
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### Author:  [@Khadro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadro)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2001, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/2 "2001-11-23T00:04:12Z")
I was (and am) under the impression that the second disc is a limited time special edition. And only some small number (10,000 in Australia) are being released.
That probably equates to about 100,000 or so (give or take 10,000) in the US.
[ROTTEN APPLES: GREATEST HITS](http://www.hmv.com.au/V3/Search/product_rockpop.asp?sku=803061&sessionno=3bfd910c0119a8ca27410a9b9a1206a6&custno=WWWanonymous&anonymous=1)
compared to
[ROTTEN APPLES: GREATEST HITS: BONUS EDITION: 2CD](http://www.hmv.com.au/V3/Search/product_rockpop.asp?sku=802416&sessionno=3bfd910c0119a8ca27410a9b9a1206a6&custno=WWWanonymous&anonymous=1)
Like I said though, that’s from Australia. It may be different on other shores.
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### Author:  [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/3 "2001-11-23T03:28:54Z")
You could be right about that. On the other hand, they are offering free downloads of all the songs on Judas O in 320 kbps mp3 format at [http://www.smashingpumpkins.com](http://www.smashingpumpkins.com) . That’s really high quality, so if you burned it, it would sound good.
I’ve been really impressed with them as a band since they broke up, allowing Audiogalaxy to host all of their songs in mp3, offering all of their videos on the website, and now giving away their latest album.
It seems like they are now saying thank you for all the support their fans gave them, and basically saying that everything they produced during that time belongs to us now. That’s really cool. I highly recommend downloading those songs if you aren’t going to go out and buy them.
LC
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### Author:  [@Niobium\_Knight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niobium_Knight)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/4 "2001-11-23T04:53:32Z")
well there’s l,oads of copies in UK. i got mine yesterday. i like it how the Judas O disc says “CD-R” on it 😃 nice touch
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### Author:  [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/5 "2001-11-23T19:54:36Z")
A million thanks, Lucki Chaarms. When I read that this album was coming out, I just skipped past it, going “Well, I’ve got all their other albums, so why do I need SPGH?” I had no idea it had unreleased numbers on it. I’ll get myself a copy at the earliest opportunity. 😉
(Mind you, the unreleased tracks thing is a very Pumpkins thing to do - Pisces Iscariot and the countless Mellon Collie singles spring to mind.)
Any news on what the band members are doing now? Especially, of course, Mr Corgan?
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### Author:  [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2001, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/6 "2001-11-23T23:49:02Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jinty \*
> \*\*A million thanks, Lucki Chaarms. When I read that this album was coming out, I just skipped past it, going “Well, I’ve got all their other albums, so why do I need SPGH?” I had no idea it had unreleased numbers on it. I’ll get myself a copy at the earliest opportunity. 😉
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> (Mind you, the unreleased tracks thing is a very Pumpkins thing to do - Pisces Iscariot and the countless Mellon Collie singles spring to mind.)
>
> Any news on what the band members are doing now? Especially, of course, Mr Corgan? \*\*
You are quite welcome, **jinty**.
As far as the band members go, Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain are back together in a new band called Zwan. They have no singles out, but they recently played their first concert, and have a few more to go before (I imagine) hitting the studio.
Apparently Zwan has a little of the flavor, but is thankfully not a Pumpkins clone. This courtesy of the nice people over at Rolling Stone.
LC
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### Author:  [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2001, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smashing-pumpkins-album/94796/7 "2001-11-24T04:49:38Z")
Very cool.
However, most of the ‘new’ tracks are somewhat familiar. _Untitled_ received radio airplay (well, at least here in Australia) almost a year ago. Apparently, it was played on a Chicago radio station this time last year as a ‘farewell’ song from the Pumpkins; from there, the electronic recording made its way around the world.
_Real Love_ is a track from _Machina II: The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music_. Strictly speaking, this recording was offically released, but not as a CD. _Machina II_ was distributed by the Pumpkins (without involving their estranged recording company) as a set of vinyls. The band basically told people to distribute this final album electronically (I have it :))
_Here’s to the Atom Bomb_ is another track from _Machina II_. Many of the other _Judas O_ tracks can be found on the _Aeroplane Flies High_ boxed set compilation of _Mellon Collie_-era singles and b-sides; I’ve heard that the other tracks are _Adore_ and _Machina I_ outakes.