# New Smiley Proposition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466>\
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**Created:** [September 1, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466 "2009-09-01T10:22:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/41 "2009-09-03T13:07:43Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> What is the name of the plugin?

Text-to-image, rather aptly. Note that it only works if the link goes directly to a picture, and not to the flicr/facebook/whatever page displaying the image; still, I find it to be rather useful. You can turn it on/off for each tab you’re viewing with a single click. The download link is [here](https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/addon/618).

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/42 "2009-09-03T15:10:00Z")

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Generally speaking, I’d be against this…I’m satisfied with the current crop of smilies (save for an irrational desire for the return of :j).

As I learned many years ago, though, the thing about [Squee](http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGMER/squee_goblin_nabob.jpg) is that you can squash it temporarily, but it just keeps coming back…and continuing to focus your aggression on it only hurts you in the long run. Best, then, when you find yourself facing an opposing Squee, to just ignore it and go about your other business.

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**Author:** ![Brainiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@Brainiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/43 "2009-09-03T18:34:34Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> We need a squeeeee! smiley, for threads about food, kittehs, puppehs and good happenings…

Time for you to show us what you want. If you can’t find an example at another site, draw one on a napkin and fax it to us.

[sub]^^\[1\]  
[sup]0[/sup][sub]|[/sub][sup]0[/sup]  
\_/

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1. /sub

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/44 "2009-09-03T19:54:30Z")

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I made one up ([http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2235/squee.gif](http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2235/squee.gif)), it’s about the size of a normal smiley, and I don’t have photoshop so the background is white instead of transparent, but on the off chance we used it all someone would have to do is change that, I’d do it myself if I had photoshop should only take about 3 seconds. I don’t have time to make another at this exact moment, but looking at it, it looks a little too much like an alternate 🙂 (or perhaps :D), so maybe eyes closed/squinted would work better. I tried to do sparkly eyes, but 15x15px is just too small, maybe someone else would have better luck on that. Size restriction on this make it really tough, the eye real estate alone makes it tough to do much.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/45 "2009-09-03T20:09:05Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> but on the off chance we used it all someone would have to do is change that

Well, okay, not ALL someone would have to do, it’s a little rough, but you probably figured that out already.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/46 "2009-09-03T22:31:35Z")

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I think we need this smiley: [:deadpan:](http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3318/deadpan.gif)

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/47 "2009-09-04T00:54:14Z")

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There’s a case to be made for ::deadpan::, as it might enhance communication – it’s also a credible softener.  
Along the same lines, ::chuckle:: or ::heh:: could be used to say “Well ok, but…”

Why couldn’t the poster simply write, “Well ok, but…”? Well, the smilie would be used to indicate emotional sympathy, as a prelude to substantive disagreement.

[quote]  
[ul][li]_be well executed_, in a graphic sense[/ul][/li][/quote]  
This is hard. I think lissener’s proposal is commendable as a first effort, though it could use some work.  
At any rate, there are other boards where these concepts could be tried out. Speaking of first efforts needing work, I might submit [this implementation](http://wm54.inbox.com/thumbs/1f_130b9f_4c75b7ca_oG.gif.thumb) of :heh: or :chuckle: . Operationally, it might be a gentler version of the winky. Regardless, if anybody has a better label for it, let us know.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/48 "2009-09-04T00:57:14Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Speaking of first efforts needing work, I might submit [this implementation](http://wm54.inbox.com/thumbs/1f_130b9f_4c75b7ca_oG.gif.thumb) of :heh: or :chuckle:

Heh; that Marty Feldman cracks me up.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/49 "2009-09-04T06:59:33Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> Text-to-image, rather aptly. Note that it only works if the link goes directly to a picture, and not to the flicr/facebook/whatever page displaying the image; still, I find it to be rather useful. You can turn it on/off for each tab you’re viewing with a single click. The download link is [here](https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/addon/618).

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/50 "2009-09-06T02:52:21Z")

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What is this “:j” everyone is getting nostalgic about? Is it related to the Hassidic Jew smiley (which I have heard about, but alas, never seen) or is it something else entirely?

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**Author:** ![NRichards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@NRichards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NRichards)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/51 "2009-09-06T10:35:58Z")

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Where can we see the old SD smilies? I am having very foggy, lurky memories of smiley debates of yore.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/52 "2009-09-06T23:17:44Z")

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I have [an old bookmark](http://www.geocities.com/proposedsmilies/) pointing to the list of proposed smilies, but the link is now dead. The first poll resulted in the addition of Mr. Smackie. The second poll gave us Dubious. IIRC “None of the above” was an actively considered choice in both rounds. As always, management had the final say and “No moving images” was a rule from the get-go, (so the much beloved Smashie did not qualify, to the chagrin of very few). Still later, putz and :j were trimmed out.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/53 "2009-09-06T23:57:15Z")

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Luckily, at least some of them were [internet archived](http://web.archive.org/web/20030402172144/http://www.geocities.com/proposedsmilies/).

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/54 "2009-09-07T02:21:53Z")

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I’m generally not a fan of inline images, but some of the ones proposed here are quite good. The deadpan smilie is especially good. And we have needed a puking, or at least a green-faced sick smilie. The one MSN messenger uses is a good example.

For the people asking why use an image when a few dozen words can be used to convey the sentiment, I respond thusly:

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/55 "2009-09-07T07:06:50Z")

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Ah, but some really only require one word, eg ::blech:: .

For those interested, an account of the 1982 invention/emergence/discovery of the emoticon is [here](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm).

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/56 "2009-09-07T07:36:26Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> I’m generally not a fan of inline images, but some of the ones proposed here are quite good. The deadpan smilie is especially good.

I like the idea of a deadpan smiley (better than a “squee” smiley). I didn’t particularly like that implementation of it.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/57 "2009-09-07T11:06:53Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> For those interested, an account of the 1982 invention/emergence/discovery of the emoticon is [here](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm).

Do you expect me to read all of that? Can’t you just summarize it with an 18 square pixel image?

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/58 "2009-09-08T15:01:44Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> I think we need a Grumpy Old Fart smiley.
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> :getoffofmylawn:

Seconded!!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/59 "2009-09-08T20:18:10Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> For the people asking why use an image when a few dozen words can be used to convey the sentiment, I respond thusly:

Except that the OP is proposing a smilie to express a _one word_ sentiment.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-smiley-proposition/508466/60 "2009-09-09T02:02:53Z")

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If we’re going to have a “squee” smiley we should probably have a “twee” smiley also.

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