# New Star Wars movies - a trilogy too far? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 14, 2010, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629 "2010-11-14T08:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/21 "2010-11-15T03:15:18Z")
If they aren’t based on Tim Zahn’s trilogy and written/directed by someone other than Lucas, they’re crap by definition. Glad to see Lucasfilm is denying the rumor. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/22 "2010-11-15T04:00:03Z")
Forget new trilogy, live action tv, novels…what the Star Wars universe needs is a Special Edition Blu-ray issue of the “Star Wars Holiday Special”. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/23 "2010-11-15T04:03:37Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > Forget new trilogy, live action tv, novels…what the Star Wars universe needs is a Special Edition Blu-ray issue of the “Star Wars Holiday Special”. Wookiee Life Day is the 17th of this month. Let’s make it happen for 12 months time! ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/24 "2010-11-15T04:32:45Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > Forget new trilogy, live action tv, novels…what the Star Wars universe needs is a Special Edition Blu-ray issue of the “Star Wars Holiday Special”. Only if it is in 3-D ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/25 "2010-11-15T05:58:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry, but where the hell is he going to fit a trilogy in the midst of this [list of books that are official canon?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_books) Star Wars canon is… [fairly complex](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon). But the bottom line is that for George Lucas, canon is whatever he says is canon–he’s not bound by anything in the Expanded Universe. And this being George Lucas, there’s no reason to believe he’d think twice about disregarding, say, the Zahn trilogy if he wanted to do a few movies set in that era… ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/26 "2010-11-15T06:34:46Z")
It’s an odd thing about canon, because George will [sometimes crib from it](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_C-canon_elements_in_the_films), including characters in the prequels ([Aayla Secura](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aayla_Secura#Behind_the_scenes) and [Quinlan Vos](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos#Behind_the_scenes)); and he’ll also contribute to it, giving suggestions to some of the comic and game creators. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/27 "2010-11-15T06:51:49Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > Star Wars canon is… [fairly complex](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon). But the bottom line is that for George Lucas, canon is whatever he says is canon–he’s not bound by anything in the Expanded Universe. And this being George Lucas, there’s no reason to believe he’d think twice about disregarding, say, the Zahn trilogy if he wanted to do a few movies set in that era… The guy is not even bound by his own cannon. See the Solo shot first thing and all the retcon he’s been doing with either the new trilogy but also with the re re re re re releases of the Real Trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/28 "2010-11-15T08:49:43Z")
Personally I think the new trilogy improved from the complete crap that was Phantom Menace to ROTS which was a decent film so I wouldn’t mind new films by Lucas. What I would **really** like is a Fireflyesque TV series about the early adventures of Han and Lando directed by Joss Whedon. Not holding my breath though. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/29 "2010-11-15T09:01:09Z")
Incidentally I think people exaggerate the negative impact of the prequels on the franchise. Revenge of the Sith in addition to being a box-office hit was a widely liked film. It received 80% on Rotten Tomatoes and is at 7.8 on IMDB. Obviously there are some people who hate all the prequels and think they have completely ruined the franchise but I don’t think that is the majority view. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/30 "2010-11-15T09:47:46Z")
Can somebody please make Sci-Fi movies where the people dress like its the 23rd century (and not some dump like europe ca. 1300 AD)? Why the hell to his actors wear puttees? Lucas had some pretty starnge ideas about advanced technology civilizations. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/31 "2010-11-15T09:51:16Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Can somebody please make Sci-Fi movies where the people dress like its the 23rd century (and not some dump like europe ca. 1300 AD)? > Why the hell to his actors wear puttees? > Lucas had some pretty starnge ideas about advanced technology civilizations. It’s not meant to be hard science fiction or even plausible speculative fiction. It’s an adventure/fantasy/myth/fairy tale set in space. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/32 "2010-11-15T10:22:47Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Can somebody please make Sci-Fi movies where the people dress like its the 23rd century (and not some dump like europe ca. 1300 AD)? > Why the hell to his actors wear puttees? > Lucas had some pretty starnge ideas about advanced technology civilizations. If wearing 23rd century clothes is wearing brightly colored pyjamas, I’ll stand with Lucas here. Plus, it’s “Once upon a time, in a galaxy far far away…” if I remember well. The whole strength of SW relied on not going for out-of-date-tomorrow futurisms. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/33 "2010-11-15T11:14:50Z")
They should just go ahead and make a Knights of the Old Republic trilogy. I’ll watch that. Not with Lucas at the helm though. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/34 "2010-11-15T14:16:53Z")
Another vote for Zahn. I would actually pay money to see those in a theater. And I haven’t gone to a theater to see a movie since _The Producers_ (the musical). ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/35 "2010-11-15T14:57:19Z")
I think Lucas whored himself out with the frickin’ Ewoks and JarJar. I have not seen Episodes 1-3, and won’t bother with anything else he puts out, be it Lego, Stop Animation, Live, Anniversary, Director’s Alternate Ending, Shit that doesn’t belong to any story line thrown in at random, or Dead. :o ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/36 "2010-11-15T15:02:09Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > I think Lucas whored himself out with the frickin’ Ewoks and JarJar. > > I have not seen Episodes 1-3, and won’t bother with anything else he puts out, be it Lego, Stop Animation, Live, Anniversary, Director’s Alternate Ending, Shit that doesn’t belong to any story line thrown in at random, or Dead. > > :o I disagree for the Ewoks, they’re obviously a thumbs up from Lucas to the Vietcong. Episode 2, honestly had some really good moments, 3 is the worst ever made. I strugled against sleep the whole movie, almost walked out of the theatre. Still you should definitely check Genny Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars. They’re really really good, even for a Stern Old Trilogist, like you seem to be. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/37 "2010-11-15T15:33:49Z")
An opinion from someone who: 1. Loves the original trilogy (just watched all 3 in one day last Saturday, in fact!) 2. Thought the prequels were somewhat slow, but entertaining in their own way and not nearly as awful as the prevailing opinion around here. 3. Doesn’t give a crap about novels or canon. I’d enjoy seeing more \*Star Wars \*films. It’d be cool if they could get Mark Hamill back and have Luke mentoring a young protege or two (maybe even his own kids, or Han and Leia’s?) and having to fight off a resurgence of the Dark Side for the first time since the Empire was destroyed. I would hope they’d bring back at least some of the original characters (though Ford has stated he wouldn’t be interested in revisiting Han Solo, but you never know). It’s a given that a certain number of fans would be upset with whatever the end product might be. So what? Like **spark240** said, what could it hurt at this point? Oh, and, the website I never heard of spent the first three paragraphs of this article insisting that they are _never wrong!_ So the rumors \*must \*be true! (What was that Shakespeare line? “Methinks thou dost protesteth too much”?) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/38 "2010-11-15T16:10:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry, but where the hell is he going to fit a trilogy in the midst of this [list of books that are official canon?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_books) “Splinter of the Mind’s Eye” is canon? I find that… disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/39 "2010-11-15T16:23:52Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > “Splinter of the Mind’s Eye” is canon? I find that… disturbing. Incesteriffic! ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629/40 "2010-11-15T16:46:03Z")
I would like to wait a generation til Lucas is dead and then have a new “reboot” trilogy based on Zahn’s first three SW books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-star-wars-movies-a-trilogy-too-far/560629.md?page=3)