# NEW states list puzzle- an experiment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 26, 2003, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940 "2003-09-26T11:24:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/1 "2003-09-26T11:24:32Z")

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With the [states list puzzle](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=130383) still grinding on without a solution, I’ve been wondering about the solvability of this puzzle- it appears that personal knowledge of the puzzle setter is required, from posts on the subject made elsewhere.

I’ve decided to construct my own states list puzzle, as much for the enjoyment of fellow Dopers as to see how quickly a fair version of this kind of puzzle can be solved.

I believe the puzzle is fair. I think it will be solved by somebody here, reasonably quickly. It requires no personal knowledge of me. The answer is available on the Internet.

Again, the puzzle is to explain the ordering of the US states. The answer will be of the form ‘This is the order in which \<a certain thing happened\> \<with a certain proviso\>’.

As we’re up to 27 states in the other puzzle, I’ll give you the same number of states in mine. I will add more states, and provide more information, depending on how this pans out.

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1 .Oregon  
2 .Washington  
3 .Idaho  
4 .Montana  
5 .North Dakota  
6 .South Dakota  
7 .Minnesota  
8 .Iowa  
9 .Nebraska  
10.Missouri  
11.Illinois  
12.Indiana  
13.Kentucky  
14.West Virginia  
15.Virginia  
16.Tennessee  
17.North Carolina  
18.South Carolina  
19.Wyoming  
20.Colorado  
21.Kansas  
22.Oklahoma  
23.New Mexico  
24.Texas  
25.Louisiana  
26.California  
27.Nevada

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/2 "2003-09-26T12:02:28Z")

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the order in which these states were mentioned on the SDMB

Just a WAG, not sure what your proviso might be…

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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/3 "2003-09-26T13:36:17Z")

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No, **The Great Unwashed** , that’s not it.

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**Author:** ![uriber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/848f3c/32.png) [@uriber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uriber)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/4 "2003-09-26T15:09:30Z")

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I don’t know the answer, but I can make the following observation:  
Except for two cases (South Carolina -\> Wyoming and Louisiana -\> California), each two consecutive states on the list share a common border.  
The first 18 seem to follow a west-to-east path, and the next seven follow a approximate north-to south path.

Maybe this will help someone solve this.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/5 "2003-09-26T17:42:53Z")

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Where does Wyoming border South Carolina

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**Author:** ![uriber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/848f3c/32.png) [@uriber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uriber)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/6 "2003-09-26T18:22:50Z")

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It doesn’t, and neither does Louisiana border California.  
The two cases I gave were the _exceptions_ to the rule.

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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2003, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/7 "2003-10-01T10:03:52Z")

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Time for some more states, then:

28.Utah  
29.Mississippi  
30.Alabama  
31.Florida  
32.Georgia  
33.Arkansas  
34.Wisconsin  
35.Michigan

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2003, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-states-list-puzzle-an-experiment/203940/8 "2003-10-01T10:58:14Z")

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States where the ISS was directly overhead?
