# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 234
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4677 "2021-04-26T20:47:11Z")
It’s Rick Santorum. What did we honestly expect from former Senator Frothy Fecalcum? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4678 "2021-04-26T20:50:04Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think “those on the left” need to learn to recognize false equivalences when we are presented with them. > > A state declaring their intention not to enforce legislation _that hasn’t been passed yet, or even written_ is not the same as a state declining to enforce a federal law already on the books. It’s a purely performative act, a way to cement their defiance of a government they are looking to paint as illegitimate. I don’t think that it is a false equivalency, in terms of the constitutional principles. This declaration about guns might be everything you say: a performative act, a rallying cry, a defiant declaration, a dog whistle, whatever. It might also be the act of an asshole. But the fact is that using state employees and state agencies to enforce a federal law is an important constitutional principle. Also, while passing this law is probably, as you suggest, an effort to imply that Biden is going to grab all the guns (people made the same claims about Obama, and it never happened), Biden has actually issued executive orders related to guns, such as his ban on gun kits (so-called ghost guns). He has also explicitly called for reviving the federal assault weapons ban. That is, he has made clear policy statements that, if enacted, would place some federal restrictions on gun ownership, which is exactly what this state law is aimed at hobbling. I don’t know why it’s false equivalency to discuss the issue of federalism and state cooperation with federal law enforcement under such circumstances. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The intent of this legislation, IMHO, was not to protect the gun owners of the state of Wyoming. This is definitely true. The governor and state legislature of Montana do not have any authority over the gun owners of Wyoming, unless those gun owners happen to be carrying their guns while visiting Montana. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4679 "2021-04-26T23:00:54Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > We have to remember, on both sides, that it’s **not the state’s job** to enforce federal laws. Like a balanced budget, the Republicans seem to forget that plank when it suits them. The Republican legislature in Arizona determined the Federal government was not doing its job on our southern border. [SB1070](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1070) was the result and signed into law by governor Jan Brewer in April, 2010 In the November election [Proposition 203](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Arizona_Proposition_203), received a majority vote, the third time Arizona voters had said they would like this. The same Janet Fuckin’ Brewer then commenced wringing her hands saying she was worried whether state employees involved in implementing certain provisions were subject to federal prosecution and filed a lawsuit in Federal court delaying the implementation for a year. That’s when I started saying Republicans have a talent for talking out both sides of their ass at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4680 "2021-04-26T23:29:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The stupid just goes on and on. They really are seriously advocating a white supremacist platform! Even Nixon wasn’t that bad. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4681 "2021-04-26T23:31:59Z")
Not ThelmaLou’s words: > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “I mean, yes, we have Native Americans, but candidly, there isn’t much Native American culture in American culture.” Yes, Santorum. And that was by design you fuckstick. Republicans: Fuck all of you. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4682 "2021-04-26T23:36:18Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Even Nixon wasn’t that bad. RINO Him and Ike, basically Communists, when you think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4683 "2021-04-26T23:43:51Z")
Not to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4684 "2021-04-26T23:58:10Z")
From the HuffPost piece: > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [CNN](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/cnn) senior political commentator Rick Santorum said Friday that there was “nothing” in America before white colonizers arrived and that Native Americans haven’t contributed much to American culture anyway. > > “We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here,” Santorum, a former Republican senator from Pennsylvania, told students during remarks at a Young America’s Foundation event. “I mean, yes, we have Native Americans, but candidly, there isn’t much Native American culture in American culture.” What a foul and ugly place is the mind of Rick Santorum. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4685 "2021-04-27T01:17:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What a foul and ugly place is the mind of Rick Santorum. it is brimming with santorum ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4686 "2021-04-27T01:51:04Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > The Republican legislature in Arizona determined the Federal government was not doing its job on our southern border. That’s not exactly what I meant. Jurisdictional issues are one thing. But, I meant it’s literally not the state’s (or the local police, or the school board’s, etc…) job. There are federal law enforcement agencies tapped to enforce federal laws. The case of SB1070 is one where the jurisdictions overlap. AZ absolutely has the right (nee duty) to protect it’s borders just like it’s the federal govt’s to protect its. Just so happens that they share a part of those boundaries. And just like it’s not the state’s job to enforce federal law. It’s not the fed’s job to enforce the state’s. SB1070 did not require (nor could it) federal agents such as the CPB to enforce it. I don’t think it’s a _Stupid Republican Idea_ to try to pass laxer gun laws for their state if they believe it is in the best interests of it’s inhabitants. It’s actually their duty. I do think it’s a _SRI_ to think that a gun sanctuary law is in the best interests of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4687 "2021-04-27T03:47:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > What a foul and ugly place is the mind of Rick Santorum.   > > it is brimming with santorum   The santorum spews from every orifice, whichever one is open at any given moment. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4688 "2021-04-27T04:36:29Z")
> [@Santorum](#): > > We birthed a nation That’s some… Evocative phrasing , Rick. Reminds me of… Something. A movie, maybe? I dunno. I’m sure it’ll come to me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4689 "2021-04-27T04:58:46Z")
Fucker Carlson says you should call CPS if you see children wearing face masks. > **[Fox host urges viewers to call Child Protective Services on kids wearing masks](https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-masks/)** > > On Monday, Fox News host Tucker Carlson's segment went completely off the rails when he urged viewers to call child services on parents who are masking up their kids to protect them from COVID-19."Masks have always been incompatible with a free... ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4690 "2021-04-27T07:59:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Fucker Carlson says you should call CPS if you see children wearing face masks. All the major media have picked up this story. Google for: Tucker Carlson Call Child Protective Service on kids wearing masks to find the story at Yahoo, Forbes, Business Insider, The Wrap, HuffPo, The Independent, many others. Carlson also urges the freedom-loving unmasked to harass mask-wearing adults in public. From the Raw Story article that @Smapti posted: > [@](#): > > “Masks have always been **incompatible with a free society** ,” said Carlson. “Masks are for the guilty. They’re signifiers of shame and submission.” > > He went on to suggest that parents who have their kids wear masks outside are unfit and engaging in child abuse. > > “Next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or on the bike path, do not hesitate, ask politely but firmly, would you please take off your mask? Science shows there is no reason for you to be wearing it. **Your mask is making me uncomfortable** ,” said Carlson. “We should do that, and we should keep doing it until wearing a mask outside is roughly as socially acceptable as lighting a Marlboro in an elevator. It’s repulsive.” (Bold added.) Aha. Got it. Wearing masks is a microaggression now. We all have a duty to not offend the freedom-living sensibilities of a free society. Because we are only free to not wear a mask if we so choose, not to wear one if we so choose. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4691 "2021-04-27T09:29:03Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Aha. Got it. Wearing masks is a microaggression now. We all have a duty to not offend the freedom-living sensibilities of a free society. Because we are only free to not wear a mask if we so choose, not to wear one if we so choose. Got it.- Makes you wonder where infecting someone with a potentially deadly disease falls on the offensiveness spectrum… * * * > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A dive into the Republican claims that Biden is going to ban beef. > Gov. Greg Abbott wants Texans to know he’s here to protect their hamburgers and brisket — even if they were never really in danger. > > The Republican state leader joined conservative firebrands over the weekend to denounce what Fox News had suggested would be a four-pound annual cap on red meat consumption, as part of the Biden administration’s climate change policies announced last week. > > “Not gonna happen in Texas!” Abbott tweeted alongside a graphic titled “Biden’s climate requirements.” [Source](http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/SanAntonioExpressNews/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=SAEN%2F2021%2F04%2F27&entity=Ar00401&sk=6FDE18BF&mode=text) You tell 'em, Greg! Keep beating that dead ~~horse~~ bovine! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4692 "2021-04-27T11:27:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Fucker Carlson says you should call CPS if you see children wearing face masks. - I hope some do. I want these clowns to start getting in _real_ trouble for their idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4693 "2021-04-27T13:07:38Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Gee whiz, 14 whole pages? I can see why you wouldn’t feel the need to read the legislation you’re criticizing. Who has that kind of time? Unless there have been some major developments that I’ve missed on Capitol Hill, the only concrete congressional action related to the Green New Deal is [House Resolution 109](https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf), from the 116th Congress. And it is exactly 14 pages long. There is no actual Green New Deal legislation. > [@DesertDog](#): > > Like a balanced budget, the Republicans seem to forget that plank when it suits them. Completely agree. And they should actually be called out for their hypocrisy on every possible occasion. But it’s less convincing complaining about other people’s hypocrisy if your own side does similar things. It’s incredible how many Democrats, including people on this message board, suddenly discovered the virtues of federalism and limited executive power during the four years of the Trump administration. There were all sorts of calls for states’ rights, and for placing curbs on things like executive orders. I admit to some tendencies in that direction myself. I liked Obama’s executive actions on DACA/DAPA, but I was strongly opposed to Trump’s immigration-related actions. The great thing about Trump was that he and his people were so incompetent that courts ended up striking down things that he really did have the power to do, because he didn’t do them properly. But this is precisely why the principles of limited power are important: if you want your guy in office to be able to make all your favorite things happen with the stroke of a pen, then you have to be prepared to accept that the other side are going to do the same thing when they get into power, and they’re going to do stuff you don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4694 "2021-04-27T13:55:48Z")
**Rare, Lucid Republican Idea of the Day?** > **[‘Pure Lunacy’: GOP Gov. Larry Hogan Issues Stark Warning To Fellow Republicans](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry-hogan-warning-republicans_n_6087c5c0e4b02e74d21ea8cd)** > > "We’ve got to get back to reality," the Maryland Republican said of his own party. Sure, an (R!) Trump critic whose second term ends in 2022, but there’s got to be a voice in that darkness coming from somewhere. Maybe once in a while, anyway. Mitt? Lisa? Adam? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4695 "2021-04-27T14:37:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > There were all sorts of calls for states’ rights, and for placing curbs on things like executive orders. I admit to some tendencies in that direction myself. I liked Obama’s executive actions on DACA/DAPA, but I was strongly opposed to Trump’s immigration-related actions. With good reason. The CONTENT of the Executive Orders matters immensely. 🤨 > [@](#): > > But this is precisely why the principles of limited power are important: if you want your guy in office to be able to make all your favorite things happen with the stroke of a pen, then **you have to be prepared to accept** that the other side are going to do the same thing when they get into power, and they’re going to do stuff you don’t like. My bold. No, you absolutely do not have to accept any such thing. It’s not just a question of trump _doing stuff we didn’t like_, and you know that. False equivalence. Not going down that well-trodden path, which has been discussed in thousands of posts. Amended: Okay, you can **recognize** that it might happen, but **accepting** connotes “oh well, nuttin’ we can do until the next election.” I don’t buy that. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4696 "2021-04-27T14:50:27Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Him and Ike, basically Communists, when you think about it. Well, he _did_ cozy up to those heathen Chinese. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=233) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=235)