# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 249
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4978 "2021-05-11T22:27:19Z")
One of the grocers I frequent (Vons) does display the ersatz in the same freezer as the meat, altho in a partitioned section. It comes packaged and looking the same as ground chuck or beef. The Impossible meat bleeds\* while I cook it, too (mmmmmmm heme). \*Can I still say it bleeds or is that word on the verboten list too? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4979 "2021-05-11T22:33:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Can I still say it bleeds or is that word on the verboten list too? Oh, jesus’ bloody nails, of course you can. How else would you speak of what happens when you use a sharpie on normal paper, or how you get the air out your brake lines, or printing color all the way to the edge of a page? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4980 "2021-05-11T22:38:59Z")
Dunno; it’s Texas that has the problem with carcass-related language. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4981 "2021-05-11T23:11:36Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > The last time a Constitutional Convention [was held](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Convention_(United_States)) the purpose was to amend the Articles of Confederation. Instead they were tossed wholesale and the constitution we’re currently under implemented instead. > > > At the time, the convention was not referred to as a “Constitutional convention”, nor did most of the delegates arrive intending to draft a new constitution. Many assumed that the purpose of the convention was to discuss and draft improvements to the existing Articles of Confederation, and would not have agreed to participate otherwise. Once the convention began, however, most of the delegates – though not all – came to agree in general terms that the goal would be a new system of government, not simply a revised version of the Articles of Confederation. > > Of course, with the sense of history these yahoos have, they either know nothing of it or worse, don’t figure it’ll happen to them. Or they DO expect to overturn the Constitution and replace it with something more in line with what they believe Baby Jesus wants. I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of them have been paying close attention to _The Handmaid’s Tale_, looking for useful ideas to incorporate into the new document. \ > [@Aspenglow](#): > > I think it’s a good idea to start a thread so we can discuss these issues more pointedly. May as well start it in P&E… who knows? Maybe it will stay there. 🙂 I agree it’s worth discussing; there are always calls—whether by people on the left or people on the right—for left-leaning folks to STOP CRITICIZING right-leaning folks. I tend to think such calls are seldom made in good faith, but the topic deserves debate. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4982 "2021-05-11T23:12:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Nonetheless, Dr Fauci needs to count his negatives a little more carefully > > > [@](#): > > > > “Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute,” Fauci responded. Yeah, when parsed, that sentence doesn’t say what Fauci (presumably) intended to say. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4983 "2021-05-11T23:21:34Z")
Wisconsin is on a tear lately: > **[National anthem would be required under Wisconsin bill](https://apnews.com/article/wi-state-wire-green-bay-packers-wisconsin-sports-nfl-171d2a657dd99e415e02a7fe8c4bbd62)** > > MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The national anthem would have to be played before all sporting events held at Wisconsin venues that received any public funding under a mostly symbolic bill passed Tuesday by the state Assembly > [@](#): > > The requirement would apply at all levels of athletic events played on a field that ever received public money, from a bar league softball game at the local park to the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. > > “Sporting event” is not defined, raising the question of whether the anthem would have to be sung every time someone gets together for a pickup game of football at the city park or plays a softball game on a municipal field. > > There is no penalty for violating the requirement, so even if the bar league softball team skipped the national anthem, there would be no repercussion under the law. > [@](#): > > The Assembly passed the proposal on a bipartisan 74-22 vote, sending it on to the Senate. Democratic opponents derided it as a political stunt, unworkable and a solution in search of a problem. > > Democratic Rep. Lisa Subeck, of Madison, called the GOP-sponsored proposal a “political messaging kind of bill and not about anything serious.” > > “I also don’t think it’s possible for us to legislate patriotism,” she said. > > Republicans said requiring the singing of the national anthem would increase patriotism. > > “Can you teach patriotism?” said Republican Rep. Janel Brandtjen. “Yes, by singing this song you can and you can have the conversations about how great this country is.” 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4984 "2021-05-11T23:40:13Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@eschereal](#): > > > > Nonetheless, Dr Fauci needs to count his negatives a little more carefully > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > “Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute,” Fauci responded. > > Yeah, when parsed, that sentence doesn’t say what Fauci (presumably) intended to say. - Rand Paul is a negative influence. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4985 "2021-05-11T23:41:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Rand Paul is a negative influence. - Ah, so his presence automatically adds one extra negative to a sentence?—makes sense! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4986 "2021-05-11T23:56:02Z")
Not sure wherelse to post this, if it already has been. Another party? Let’s party. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rationals-vs-radicals-anti-trump-republicans-threaten-third-party-2021-05-11/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rationals-vs-radicals-anti-trump-republicans-threaten-third-party-2021-05-11/) > [@](#): > > The letter signatories, who include former ambassadors, governors, congressional members and Cabinet secretaries, want the Republican Party to return to “principled” leadership and reject division and conspiracy theories, or face a new party dedicated to fighting for Republicans such as Cheney and against fearmongering and lies. > [@](#): > > Backers of the reform group include former Republican Governors Tom Ridge, Christine Todd Whitman, George W. Bush-era Transportation Secretary Mary Peters and former House members Charlie Dent, Barbara Comstock, Reid Ribble and Mickey Edwards. > [@](#): > > They may face an uphill battle in getting any current Republican officeholders to sign on - including Cheney herself, who in February rejected the idea of a third party, saying it would empower Democrats. The Honestly No Bullshit Republican Party? Nothing To Do With _Those_ Losers Party? Fucking Grown-Ups Party? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4987 "2021-05-11T23:59:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > How else would you speak of what happens when you use a sharpie on normal paper, or how you get the air out your brake lines, or printing color all the way to the edge of a page? Or things that lead? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4988 "2021-05-11T23:59:09Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > They may face an uphill battle in getting any current Republican officeholders to sign on - including Cheney herself, who in February rejected the idea of a third party, saying it would empower Democrats. … She’s quite correct, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4989 "2021-05-12T00:11:36Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Or things that lead? If it bl\*\*ds it l\*\*ds? If you can’t say/write that, then they’re taking away our Fake News! You know they’ve been wanting to do that all along! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4990 "2021-05-12T00:14:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “Can you teach patriotism?” said Republican Rep. Janel Brandtjen. “Yes, by singing this song you can and you can have the conversations about how great this country is.” “To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds.” - Justice Robert Jackson, 1943 _West Virginia State BOE v Barnette_ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4991 "2021-05-12T00:45:51Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Nonetheless, Dr Fauci needs to count his negatives a little more carefully > > > [@](#): > > > > “Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute,” Fauci responded. Be nice if we could go to the tape. I find it far more plausible that a copywriter mistranscribed a stammer than that Fauci miscounted his negatives. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4992 "2021-05-12T01:19:15Z")
Well, the Examiner is kind of a sub-second-tier source: below the Hill but certainly nowhere near the MoonieTimes muckpit. When one looks at [the story on RCP](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/05/11/dr_fauci_dismisses_questions_about_gain-of-function_research_from_sen_rand_paul_completely_incorrect.html#), the quote is rendered > [@](#): > > “Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect,” Fauci said. “The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology… We do not send money now to the Wuhan Virology Institute.” which is a much more sensible take. Triibblehead’s grot seems to be that NIH funded research in Wuhan labs and Covid-19 was first seen in one of those labs, so it must have been created in that lab, which was getting NIH support. Dr. Fauci can tell him repeatedly “you’re a fucking idiot”, but he is powerless to make Tribblehead stop spewing. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4993 "2021-05-12T01:52:49Z")
One gets the impression that many Republicans are making a huge effort into becoming (thanks to ignorance) the largest control group in history for the scientific efforts into controlling the pandemic. (/s) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4994 "2021-05-12T02:05:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Be nice if we could go to the tape. I find it far more plausible that a copywriter mistranscribed a stammer than that Fauci miscounted his negatives. I had exactly the same thought. The Washington Examiner is a right-wing piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4995 "2021-05-12T05:11:48Z")
Sort of a voluntary Tuskegee experiment. Where all participants provide misinformed consent. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4996 "2021-05-12T08:38:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > “To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds.” - Justice Robert Jackson, 1943 _West Virginia State BOE v Barnette_ In both the case of the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem, forcing people to praise freedom is about as ironic - and unpatriotic - as you can get. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/4997 "2021-05-12T09:51:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@eschereal](#): > > > > Nonetheless, Dr Fauci needs to count his negatives a little more carefully > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > “Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute,” Fauci responded. > > Be nice if we could go to the tape. I find it far more plausible that a copywriter mistranscribed a stammer than that Fauci miscounted his negatives. Looks like there’s a go-to tape [URL= [https://www.politico.com/video/2021/05/11/fauci-to-paul-with-all-due-respect-you-are-entirely-and-completely-incorrect-228505](https://www.politico.com/video/2021/05/11/fauci-to-paul-with-all-due-respect-you-are-entirely-and-completely-incorrect-228505)]here[/URL]. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=248) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=250)