# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/565 "2020-08-11T15:52:21Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Is he proposing some kind of solution for this demographic shift? Some kind of final one?

Too soon; too soon. We need a fire in the Capitol and then a Crystal Night first.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/566 "2020-08-11T16:39:05Z")

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To be clear: the stupid idea here isn’t that he withdrew his candidacy:

> **[The Latest: Omar holds off well-funded primary challenger](https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-legislature-ap-top-news-ilhan-omar-d52ae7fa15ce2653302e194854ce3657)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on Tuesday's elections (all times local): 10:25 p.m. Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota has survived a stiff Democratic primary challenge from a well-funded opponent who tried to make an issue of her national celebrity.

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> Wethersfield police say Gilmer was charged on a warrant with first-degree unlawful restraint and second-degree strangulation and posted a $5,000 bond. He is expected to appear in court Tuesday. Gilmer’s campaign website was down, and he could not immediately be reached for comment.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/567 "2020-08-11T16:46:06Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> We need a fire in the Capitol and then a Crystal Night first.

Naw, there’s no way that could happen, since the last time there was a Great Pandemic it ended World War II.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/568 "2020-08-11T16:51:10Z")

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But not before the British bombed Pearl Harbor, the bastards.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/569 "2020-08-11T16:57:38Z")

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But thank god Washington was able to secure the airports at valley forge or the bombing would have been much worse

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/570 "2020-08-11T17:51:58Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> But thank god Washington was able to secure the airports at valley forge or the bombing would have been much worse -

And for this, we have Paul Revere to thank, riding his horse through the countryside, waving his gun and ringing his bell . . .

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/571 "2020-08-11T18:06:09Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> And for this, we have Paul Revere to thank, riding his horse through the countryside, **waving his gun** and ringing his bell . . .

[Trump]The possession of such guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.[/Trump]

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/572 "2020-08-11T18:13:24Z")

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But without a Constitutional Right to keep and bear bells, Paul Revere was actually on very shaky ground. So lucky for the Revolution that the Brits didn’t capture him!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/573 "2020-08-11T18:22:46Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> …second-degree strangulation…

What the heck is _second degree strangulation_?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/574 "2020-08-11T18:23:16Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can anyone explain to me whom this stance by the AG is supposed to benefit?? It looks to me like lose-lose-lose all around. But some nuances escape me. 😠

Well, I look back to Naomi Klein’s book on Disaster Capitalism, which describes how big profits are made in the wake of a major bad event. Usually people are displaced in the process, but they can always go somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/575 "2020-08-11T18:26:00Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > …second-degree strangulation…
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> What the heck is _second degree strangulation_ ?

In New York, “A person is guilty of strangulation in the second degree when he or she commits the crime of criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, as defined in section 121.11 of this article, and thereby causes stupor, loss of consciousness for any period of time, or any other physical injury or impairment.”

Also in New York, " A person is guilty of strangulation in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, as defined in section 121.11 of this article, and thereby causes serious physical injury to such other person."

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/576 "2020-08-11T18:35:23Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> In New York, “A person is guilty of strangulation in the second degree when he or she commits the crime of criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, as defined in section 121.11 of this article, and thereby causes stupor, loss of consciousness for any period of time, or any other physical injury or impairment.”
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> Also in New York, " A person is guilty of strangulation in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, as defined in section 121.11 of this article, and thereby causes serious physical injury to such other person."-

So second degree is when the victim loses consciousness but doesn’t die, and with first degree the victim doesn’t necessarily lose consciousness, but what…?

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/577 "2020-08-11T18:41:50Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> So second degree is when the victim loses consciousness but doesn’t die, and with first degree the victim doesn’t necessarily lose consciousness, but what…?

Suffers lasting or permanent damage, I presume.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/578 "2020-08-11T18:52:28Z")

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And I assume that would include death? Which tends to be permanent.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/579 "2020-08-11T18:56:00Z")

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Either that or Kevin Bacon shows up.

ETA: not sure which is worse. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/580 "2020-08-11T20:08:43Z")

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Upon minute inspection, the difference seems to turn on the word “serious”, or lack thereof.

Second degree: Causes physical injury.  
First degree: Causes serious physical injury.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/581 "2020-08-11T21:31:04Z")

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Sort of like the difference between “attempted murder” and “murder” - it’s not what you were doing or what you intended to do, it’s how effective you were at doing it.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/582 "2020-08-11T23:48:55Z")

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It’s for when he wanted to kill her just a little bit.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/583 "2020-08-12T12:16:30Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> But without a Constitutional Right to keep and bear bells, Paul Revere was actually on very shaky ground. So lucky for the Revolution that the Brits didn’t capture him!

Let freedom ring!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/584 "2020-08-12T15:51:24Z")

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And that’s why the flag of New Hamster includes the state motto “COVFEFE!”

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