# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 365
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7312 "2021-09-21T19:25:25Z")
The conservative corner of the other main board I hang out on says something like 100 Seals are going to resign rather then get vaccinated. [The main reference I find](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-military-covid-vaccine-mandate) is on Fucker’s page. Reading between the lines, it sounds like the Seals are being treated exactly like every other member of the military - so that actually seems like the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7313 "2021-09-21T20:18:37Z")
Texas Congressman says the Border patrol agents caught whipping immigrants were doing God’s work. > **[Texas Republican congressman says the Border Patrol agents filmed thrashing...](https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-congressman-says-border-patrol-agents-who-whipped-at-haitians-doing-gods-work-2021-9)** > > The Department of Homeland Security announced it has opened an investigation into the treatment of the Haitian migrants, including children. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7314 "2021-09-21T20:31:32Z")
Funny that the manager says he’s tired of being told what to do, yet he seems to have no problem telling other people what to do. Sounds like a Republican to me! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7315 "2021-09-21T20:43:15Z")
How much do you want to bet that that restaurant fails its next health department inspection? “Well of course I’m putting rat droppings in the stew! They told me not to, so I had no choice!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7316 "2021-09-22T00:54:29Z")
Tennessee now mandates that if a vaccinated person gets a break-through case of COVID, they CANNOT be treated with monoclonal antibodies. **That treatment is reserved for the unvaccinated.** > [@](#): > > …Monoclonal antibody treatment lessens the severity of Covid-19 symptoms, and with more cases of the highly infectious delta variant, the demand for it has soared. > > But in recent months, 70 percent of the country’s supply has gone to seven Southern states: Alabama, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and Louisiana. > > All but Louisiana are led by Republicans who have opposed mandating Covid-19 vaccinations. And all but Florida have below average Covid-19 vaccination rates. > > …DeSantis, in particular, has touted expensive monoclonal antibody treatments (about $2,100 a dose) but has refused to mandate the far-cheaper vaccines (between $10 and $20 a dose) or proven safety measures like wearing masks. … The irresponsible, we will care for! But those taking personal responsibility for themselves…they’re on their own! PRIORITIES! > **[Tennessee limiting monoclonal antibody treatment to unvaccinated residents](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tennessee-limiting-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-unvaccinated-residents-n1279740)** > > "Clinically, it makes sense," a top Tennessee health official said. eta: apologies, not yet a law–just policy. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7317 "2021-09-22T01:52:52Z")
A Republican candidate for Nevada Lieutenant Governor was literally thrown out of the Clark County Commission meeting for interrupting their vote to declare covid misinformation a public health crisis. > **[WATCH: GOP Nevada Lt Gov hopeful violently thrown through metal detector at...](https://www.rawstory.com/mack-miller-nevada/)** > > Mack Miller, a Republican candidate for Lt. Gov. of Nevada, was physically ejected from a Las Vegas local government meeting on Tuesday."The Clark County Commission on Tuesday voted 5-2 to declare COVID-19 misinformation a public health crisis," the... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7318 "2021-09-22T02:22:23Z")
Texas is suing the federal government to allow trans workers to be misgendered at work. > **[Texas sues Biden admin for the First Amendment right to misgender trans...](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/09/texas-sues-biden-admin-first-amendment-right-misgender-trans-people-work/)** > > Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton really wants the state to misgender trans workers. So he took his case to federal court... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7319 "2021-09-22T04:41:13Z")
Loser Donald is suing the New York Times (and his niece) for “no less than One Hundred Million Dollars”. [![](https://www.mcall.com/resizer/t2JXTSwOLrZIKqqSvOkgn9fenoA=/1200x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ZRHBXXPUFRCWFP6KUCI3OINISI.jpg) ](https://www.mcall.com/resizer/t2JXTSwOLrZIKqqSvOkgn9fenoA=/1200x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ZRHBXXPUFRCWFP6KUCI3OINISI.jpg) > ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7320 "2021-09-22T07:20:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear arguments in \* Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health\*, a case in which the right is arguing that the Supreme Court ruling in _Roe v. Wade_ was an unconstitutional reach. That’s the base of the case, but some court watchers are saying that if the Court rules that the abortion case was unconstitutionally decided, then every such Supreme Court case, including gay sex and gay marriage, could also be overturned by this one ruling. Explain this to me please? What basis in common do Roe v Wade and these other cases have, such that dumping RvW also dumps the other rulings you mention? What other rulings as well might be affected? (Is it explained in the link you posted? I haven’t looked there yet.) ETA: Okay, I read that article now. It’s still not clear that dumping RvW means dumping those other rulings too. Only that this jackass says so. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7321 "2021-09-22T09:13:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Loser Donald is suing the New York Times (and his niece) for “no less than One Hundred Million Dollars”. Because apparently he’s not spending enough on lawyers these days. One hopes they’re all getting paid in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7322 "2021-09-22T12:08:45Z")
My stepdaughter has run into something similar where she works. If you are vaccinated, you cannot use paid time off if you need to take time off of work due to you or a family member testing positive for COVID - it comes out of your vacation. Only unvaccinated people can use PTO for COVID related absences. So yeah, they’re basically _encouraging_ people to not get vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7323 "2021-09-22T12:34:43Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Explain this to me please? What basis in common do Roe v Wade and these other cases have, such that dumping RvW also dumps the other rulings you mention? What other rulings as well might be affected? (Is it explained in the link you posted? I haven’t looked there yet.) The rights for gay sex and gay marriage were predicated on the 14th (I think) Amendment (unless it was the 4th?), using the same reasoning as was used for Roe. I’ve heard a number of lawyers state that the reasoning was weak for Roe to be decided on that basis and that Congress needs to find a spine and do this legislatively because it should never have been left to the courts to decide. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7324 "2021-09-22T13:07:53Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > The rights for gay sex and gay marriage were predicated on the 14th (I think) Amendment (unless it was the 4th?), The right to gay sex is enshrined in the right for people not to be unreasonably seized and their places not to be unreasonably searched? I kid, obviously - the decision on _Obergefell v. Hodges_ was based on the due process and equal protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7325 "2021-09-22T13:13:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The right to gay sex is enshrined in the right for people not to be unreasonably seized and their places not to be unreasonably searched? I thought the right to privacy, which is sort of implied in the 4th, but it’s been a while since I looked at the reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7326 "2021-09-22T13:21:52Z")
Wow. My company, headquartered in a red state, actually just changed their policy that unvaccinated no longer get paid out of the “Emergency Health Code” and have to use sick or vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7327 "2021-09-22T13:39:41Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear arguments in \* Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health\*, a case in which the right is arguing that the Supreme Court ruling in _Roe v. Wade_ was an unconstitutional reach. That’s the base of the case, but some court watchers are saying that if the Court rules that the abortion case was unconstitutionally decided, then every such Supreme Court case, including gay sex and gay marriage, could also be overturned by this one ruling. > > Explain this to me please? What basis in common do Roe v Wade and these other cases have, such that dumping RvW also dumps the other rulings you mention? What other rulings as well might be affected? (Is it explained in the link you posted? I haven’t looked there yet.) > > ETA: Okay, I read that article now. It’s still not clear that dumping RvW means dumping those other rulings too. Only that this jackass says so. The gist of the argument is that the SCOTUS opinion overturning Roe could be written in such a way as to not just deny the right to make your own medical decisions (i/e abortion), but to deny any right that is not enumerated specifically in the Constitution. The argument (long made on this board by conservative posters) is that the Supreme Court has no role in protecting or defining rights that aren’t listed in the Bill of Rights. If the majority of this Court agrees with that assessment, then a whole host of previously protected rights could no longer be protected. Same sex activity. Same sex marriage. Heck, if they took it far enough, the right to travel, the right to vote, the right to make medical decisions, etc. could be much more easily infringed upon by conservative majorities. Much more likely, however, is that the majority will simply decide to overrule Roe and its progeny and find the right to an abortion is no longer a “fundamental” right, and thus the state can much more easily restrict it. The next obvious step after that is for the Court to go through those rights that the conservative justices don’t like and declare those too as no longer “fundamental”. Then same sex marriage, sodomy, and other rights that SCOTUS once protected disappear. It won’t be all done in one case, but they could all fall in a short amount of time with an activist conservative Court. That’s the concern. And it’s not just “this jackass” who recognizes it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7328 "2021-09-22T14:39:51Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The next obvious step after that is for the Court to go through those rights that the conservative justices don’t like and declare those too as no longer “fundamental”. Then same sex marriage, sodomy, and other rights that SCOTUS once protected disappear. What happens is that states start making laws that would have been overturned on the same basis as RvW, and testing the court’s opinion on those. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that two adults of the same gender can live together, so if a state makes a law forbidding such a practice, would an anti-RvW court uphold that law? ---
**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7329 "2021-09-22T15:08:57Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The gist of the argument is that the SCOTUS opinion overturning Roe could be written in such a way as to not just deny the right to make your own medical decisions (i/e abortion), but to deny any right that is not enumerated specifically in the Constitution. The argument (long made on this board by conservative posters) is that the Supreme Court has no role in protecting or defining rights that aren’t listed in the Bill of Rights. Could this be used to overturn Brown v Topeka Board of Education as well? I’m not disagreeing with you, @Hamlet, but it seems to me that this argument would need a new definition of slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7330 "2021-09-22T15:09:09Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > The next obvious step after that is for the Court to go through those rights that the conservative justices don’t like and declare those too as no longer “fundamental”. Then same sex marriage, sodomy, and other rights that SCOTUS once protected disappear. > > What happens is that states start making laws that would have been overturned on the same basis as RvW, and testing the court’s opinion on those. > > Nowhere in the constitution does it say that two adults of the same gender can live together, so if a state makes a law forbidding such a practice, would an anti-RvW court uphold that law? For as much criticism as conservatives levy against the more liberal justices for making up rights out of thin air, the conservative justices are willing to do so for rights they want to enjoy, for example self-defense or some medical decisions. Unless this Court goes full-Clarence and rejects all rights not enumerated, they may find a right to cohabitation. But, as they are wont to do, they will define said right in such a way as to protect them, but not others. Therefore, there is a fundamental right for opposite sex members to cohabitate, but not one for same sex ones. That’s how they get around the definition of a right, by defining it by who has traditionally been allowed to enjoy it rather than the right itself. They may also simply decide that, since cohabitation is not an enumerated right, the federal judiciary has no power to protect it. So it then is a state by state issue, with no federal oversight. So if the State enacts it and the state judiciary upholds it, it’s the law. There may be room for an Equal Protection argument (who can cohabitate and whon can’t), but that would depend on the law. As long as it is aimed at an unprotected group (like homosexuals or transgendered, or whomever the right wing decides to hate next), it will stand. This, I think, would be the most likely outcome. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7331 "2021-09-22T15:12:53Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The gist of the argument is that the SCOTUS opinion overturning Roe could be written in such a way as to not just deny the right to make your own medical decisions (i/e abortion), but to deny any right that is not enumerated specifically in the Constitution IANAL (I just work for one) but doesn’t that contradict the Ninth Amendment? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=364) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=366)