# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 366
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7332 "2021-09-22T15:16:10Z")
Bwahahaha, you mean that meaningless ink blot? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7333 "2021-09-22T15:21:40Z")
> [@Julius\_Henry](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > The gist of the argument is that the SCOTUS opinion overturning Roe could be written in such a way as to not just deny the right to make your own medical decisions (i/e abortion), but to deny any right that is not enumerated specifically in the Constitution. The argument (long made on this board by conservative posters) is that the Supreme Court has no role in protecting or defining rights that aren’t listed in the Bill of Rights. > > Could this be used to overturn Brown v Topeka Board of Education as well? I’m not disagreeing with you, @Hamlet, but it seems to me that this argument would need a new definition of slippery slope. Brown decided segregation in schools negatively discriminated on the basis of race, and thus violated the Equal Protection Clause. That is a different realm of Constitutional analysis than the “fundamental rights” analysis of Roe, etc. Without getting too immersive (because I’m already slaughtering it by being too brief), I don’t think a ruling overturning Roe would necessitate or even logically lead to, the overturning of Brown. Different cases with different analysis. I will say that justices who would overturn Roe would be hundreds of times more likely to overturn Brown. There is some overlap in the philosophy of the role of the judiciary involved in both cases. But it would be wrong to conclude overturning Roe would require overturning Brown. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7334 "2021-09-22T15:24:40Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > The gist of the argument is that the SCOTUS opinion overturning Roe could be written in such a way as to not just deny the right to make your own medical decisions (i/e abortion), but to deny any right that is not enumerated specifically in the Constitution > > IANAL (I just work for one) but doesn’t that contradict the Ninth Amendment? Sure does. But to the kind of justices who would find unenumerated rights as unprotected by the federal judiciary, the Ninth wouldn’t even apply because the federal judiciary has no power to invoke it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7335 "2021-09-22T15:25:08Z")
IIRC _Obergefell_ was decided on 14th Amendment grounds, ie equal protection. I think it would be a stretch to apply a reversal of _Roe_ to those grounds. I’m not ruling it out, of course. This court is sociopathic. But I think it would require a different case to go after _Obergefell_. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7336 "2021-09-22T15:30:08Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > For as much criticism as conservatives levy against the more liberal justices for making up rights out of thin air, the conservative justices are willing to do so for rights they want to enjoy, for example self-defense or some medical decisions. Think we can get the current court to overturn _Citizens United v. FEC_, and _Kelo v. City of New London_? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7337 "2021-09-22T15:41:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > IIRC _Obergefell_ was decided on 14th Amendment grounds, ie equal protection. I think it would be a stretch to apply a reversal of _Roe_ to those grounds. I’m not ruling it out, of course. This court is sociopathic. But I think it would require a different case to go after _Obergefell_. The majority opinion used the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. It found that there are fundamental rights that “extend to certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy, including intimate choices that define personal identity and beliefs”. That part of the majority opinion could easily be overturned under the same analysis that would overturn Roe. There is certainly some discussion of the application of the Equal Protection clause, but that would simply be hand-waved away by this court concluding that there is no way the Equal Protection Clause was intended to cover same sex couples. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7338 "2021-09-22T15:47:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > For as much criticism as conservatives levy against the more liberal justices for making up rights out of thin air, the conservative justices are willing to do so for rights they want to enjoy, for example self-defense or some medical decisions. > > Think we can get the current court to overturn _Citizens United v. FEC_, and _Kelo v. City of New London_? No way on Citizens United (and it would be unrelated to overturning Roe). Kelo maybe. Again, no relation to Roe. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7339 "2021-09-22T17:07:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A Republican candidate for Nevada Lieutenant Governor was literally thrown out of the Clark County Commission meeting for interrupting their vote to declare covid misinformation a public health crisis. This phrasing confused me a bit until I read through your linked article: the County Commission vote was to declare COVID misinformation a public health crisis. And the interruption by the stupid Republican in question was apparently to protest that vote for the alleged purpose of “protecting these people’s f\*cking rights”, as he shouted when being forcibly removed. Yes, the Clark County Commission is ruthlessly trampling on Nevadans’ right to be dangerously misinformed about COVID by falsehoods and obstructionism! Tut-tut. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7340 "2021-09-22T18:24:51Z")
Pretty sad to read The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America is warning Covidiots that breathing in Hydrogen Peroxide is bad, mmmkay? Next up from DUHS (Dept. of not Underestimating Humanity’s Stupidity) : snorting Draino is bad, too! " A concerning and dangerous trend is circulating on social media channels like Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. People are breathing in hydrogen peroxide through nebulizers to try to prevent or treat COVID-19. ## **DO NOT put hydrogen peroxide into your nebulizer and breathe it in. This is dangerous!**" > **[DANGER! Don’t Nebulize Hydrogen Peroxide and Breathe It to Try to Treat or...](https://community.aafa.org/blog/danger-don-t-nebulize-hydrogen-peroxide-and-breathe-it-to-try-to-treat-or-prevent-covid-19?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%2Basthma-allergy%2B%28Asthma%2Band%2BAllergy%2BFoundation%2Bof%2BAmerica%3A%2BBlog%2BPosts%29)** > > A concerning and dangerous trend is circulating on social media channels like Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. People are breathing in hydrogen peroxide through nebulizers to try to prevent or treat COVID-19. DO NOT put hydrogen peroxide into your... ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7341 "2021-09-22T18:34:10Z")
Yikes. As the old joke goes. The bartender asked a chemist what he’d like to drink; he replied H2O; the chemist sitting next to him said “I’d like H2O, too” - but the bartender misheard, and the second chemist died. Don’t inhale or drink H2O2! ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7342 "2021-09-22T18:55:33Z")
A Michigan GOP lawmaker who threatened a fellow lawmaker that he used to have a relationship with, gets slapped with a restraining order and must now be escorted whenever he enters the statehouse. [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/michigan-gop-lawmaker-needs-to-be-babysat-at-work-after-threatening-his-ex](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/michigan-gop-lawmaker-needs-to-be-babysat-at-work-after-threatening-his-ex) And of course being a member of the Party of Personal Responsibility, he accused her of “character assassination” when she revealed the threats. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7343 "2021-09-22T19:16:41Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > A Michigan GOP lawmaker who threatened a fellow lawmaker that he used to have a relationship with, gets slapped with a restraining order and must now be escorted whenever he enters the statehouse. What is curious to me is that the ex, [Mari Manoogian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari_Manoogian), is a rising star Progressive Democrat. She flipped a historically red district, and was one of the group chosen to give a keynote speech at the Dem convention. What on earth was she doing dating this guy? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7344 "2021-09-22T19:19:11Z")
AP has [a story that discusses laws](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-pandemics-infectious-diseases-arkansas-d79d2550671cedc5d532fa04d1747248) passed to restrict public health agencies’ authority. One of the proponents of these anti-regulation laws says “Governors are elected, but they were delegating a lot of authority to the public health official, often that they had appointed”. In other words, this person wants the Governor to be forced to do everything and not have any experts do any work for him/her. > **Who does this person for? You guessed it,** > > _fucking **ALEC** _ ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7345 "2021-09-22T20:29:52Z")
General Michael Flynn believes “they” are putting the vaccine in salad dressing now: "These people are seriously thinking about how to impose their will on us in our society, and it has to stop!” [https://www.joemygod.com/2021/09/flynn-libs-are-plotting-to-put-the-vax-in-salad-dressing/](https://www.joemygod.com/2021/09/flynn-libs-are-plotting-to-put-the-vax-in-salad-dressing/) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7346 "2021-09-22T20:36:06Z")
Good lord! Is there any dangerous, non-approved chemical they won’t try to avoid a FDA fully approved vaccine? It’s sad when Trump’s plan to inject bleach while shoving an UV bulb up your ass is starting to sound within the realm of possibility for these dumbshits. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7347 "2021-09-22T20:38:53Z")
Salad dressing is just silly. What self-respecting Trumpist eats salads? The vaccine is in the BBQ sauce. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7348 "2021-09-22T20:41:24Z")
As Homer Simpson once wisely observed: “you don’t win friends with salad!” ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7349 "2021-09-22T20:59:48Z")
Remember that while it’s easy to laugh at this stuff that the people behind it are trying to foment a civil war. All these seditionists are on a continuum with evil and one end and stupid on the other, and sometimes it hard to decide where on that line an individual is. It’s especially hard to place Guiliani and Flynn, people that had a reputation for being at least moderately intelligent at one time but are clearly mentally unstable. One of the sickest details of the ongoing insurrection plot is the deliberate destabilization of thousands, if not millions, of people with borderline mental illness. In case you’re wondering why I’m being such a buzzkill today, it’s because of this article I saw today - it’s a month old, but it’s getting new attention in light of the sedition memo that’s in the news. The article itself was on the American Greatness site, which is vile. This link is on a very good article about the article. It includes a link to the article if you are so inclined. The article is by the same lawyer -John Eastman- that wrote the sedition memo, and it’s a legal blueprint for overthrowing the government, and it ties directly into what the states are doing now. It’s terrifying. > **[The Seditionist’s Cookbook](https://www.thebulwark.com/the-seditionists-cookbook/)** > > Is violence an essential element of the populist right’s political agenda? To claim otherwise has become increasingly difficult. A manifesto co-authored by John Eastman—the Trump lawyer who was forced to resign as dean of Chapman University Law... ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7350 "2021-09-22T21:37:06Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > As Homer Simpson once wisely observed: “you don’t win friends with salad!” Or as ALF once said, “That’s not food! That’s what food eats!” ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7351 "2021-09-22T22:13:41Z")
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