# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 382
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7652 "2021-10-08T01:32:42Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > IOWs he’s still stuck in the 90s 1890s, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7653 "2021-10-08T01:44:09Z")
Hey, now! I’m not that old 😃 But he is. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7654 "2021-10-08T01:44:11Z")
Not sure where this goes, but in zany Idaho, “moderate” Republicans are hoping that Democrats can save them from the crazy wing of their party. Narrator: There are no moderate righties in Idaho. > **[Idaho Republicans Trying to Sway Dems, Independents to Rescue the State](https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-republicans-trying-sway-dems-independents-switch-parties-rescue-state-1636679)** > > "The only way that this state is going to rid itself of these far-right radicals is to get more people into that Republican primary," said Bob Kustra, a former president of Boise State University. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7655 "2021-10-08T01:50:51Z")
From your link: > [@](#): > > And now some prominent mainstream Republicans, worried the state’s hard-right drift could scuttle their efforts to grow Idaho’s economy, are asking Democrats and Independents to register as Republicans to vote in the party’s May primary. > > “Everybody and their dog ought to get out to the primary and have their say so,” said Jim Jones, a former chief justice of the Idaho [Supreme Court](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/supreme-court) and former Republican Idaho attorney general. “That’s where your vote counts.” > > The mainstream Republicans who have controlled the state for decades worry that if far-right Republicans like McGeachin gain control, it will be bad for business. Guys, if your party has become so destructive, then fix it or leave it. Don’t come crying to your more responsible neighbors to fix it for you. Or even to their dogs. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7656 "2021-10-08T01:55:17Z")
Yep. Don’t ask the sane to help you with your crazy problem. Leave the crazies and join the sane. The problem is, in Idaho, the sane Right is so small that even if they left, there would still be a crazy majority. This state is fucked. In related news: [https://www.khq.com/news/idaho\_news/idaho-hospital-says-crush-of-covid-patients-getting-worse/article\_0dd71533-048a-5e1d-ae4b-84c9a63b4b31.html?fbclid=IwAR2hyYK82yck1prO2lEBsyCiRrK8mbGiXNeGIA7T5vq\_V7eTUdI4ScfXDUc](https://www.khq.com/news/idaho_news/idaho-hospital-says-crush-of-covid-patients-getting-worse/article_0dd71533-048a-5e1d-ae4b-84c9a63b4b31.html?fbclid=IwAR2hyYK82yck1prO2lEBsyCiRrK8mbGiXNeGIA7T5vq_V7eTUdI4ScfXDUc) The Idaho Death Panels are going to be busy for awhile as they ration care. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7657 "2021-10-08T01:58:59Z")
The employee-owned grocery chain I work for was founded in and is headquartered out of Boise. I’m sure the city is more left-leaning than the rest of the state, but I’ll never understand how such a progressive company came out of that netherworld. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7658 "2021-10-08T02:07:03Z")
We love your grocery stores! I live in the area known as North Idaho (not northern Idaho). The only left-leaning portion of this entire region is Moscow. All the rest is bleeding red. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7659 "2021-10-08T02:14:47Z")
I grew up in Spirit Lake, Idaho. “Liberals” was nothing but a swear word. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7660 "2021-10-08T02:32:50Z")
I was thinking it looked like a suspect’s storage unit they’d find on Law and Order. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7661 "2021-10-08T03:46:08Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This looks like the scene in a horror movie when the cops break down the door to the suspect’s house and realize he’s a deranged stalker. Is Mr. Reed a good Christian? _Thou shalt have no gods before me_ and all that. The other thought I had was except for maybe the campaign signs, all that stuff cost money. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7662 "2021-10-08T03:50:11Z")
I swear there’s specific instruction not to build altars at all . . . but damned if I can be bothered to check 'cause, clearly, God didn’t mean Mr. Reed’s altar to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7663 "2021-10-08T03:57:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Except that’s _not_ what’s being objected to, [Franklin] Graham, you dishonest piece of excrement. Threatening violence is NOT the same thing as voicing ‘strong opinions.’ Was Billy Graham anything like this shithead? Billy was a very reputable Christian evangelical minister, or at least that was his public persona. Was Billy as deplorable as Kid Franklin behind the scenes? Does anybody know? How did Franklin the Kid turn out like this? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7664 "2021-10-08T04:03:46Z")
[![](https://static.billygraham.org/sites/billygrahamlibrary.org/uploads/prod/2020/10/62-7913-scaled.jpg) ](https://static.billygraham.org/sites/billygrahamlibrary.org/uploads/prod/2020/10/62-7913-scaled.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7665 "2021-10-08T04:04:46Z")
Better . . . or worse? [![](https://static.billygraham.org/sites/billygrahamlibrary.org/uploads/prod/2020/10/63-6738_edit_web-scaled.jpg) ](https://static.billygraham.org/sites/billygrahamlibrary.org/uploads/prod/2020/10/63-6738_edit_web-scaled.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7666 "2021-10-08T04:06:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The employee-owned grocery chain I work for was founded in and is headquartered out of Boise. I’m sure the city is more left-leaning than the rest of the state, but I’ll never understand how such a progressive company came out of that netherworld. I know exactly what grocery chain you refer to. It does appear to be a good place to do business. Here in California-land, I do most of my shopping there. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7667 "2021-10-08T04:10:25Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Better . . . or worse? Thing is, Billy ministered to Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Bush the Elder too. (I can google up pictures too!) He wasn’t the overtly one-sided political partisan, nor an overt hate-monger that Frank is. Or, as I said, at least not publicly. What was he really like? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7668 "2021-10-08T04:29:49Z")
Like all of us that answer is complicated. Graham did alot of good. But he only went so far. There are tons of articles out there chronicling the two sides of him, but this one gives a good primer > **[Billy Graham was on the wrong side of history | Matthew Avery Sutton](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/21/billy-graham-wrong-side-history)** > > Racial tensions are rising, the earth is warming, and evangelicals are doing little to help. That may be Graham’s most significant, and saddest, legacy ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7669 "2021-10-08T04:55:32Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > Graham did alot of good. But he only went so far. > > There are tons of articles out there chronicling the two sides of him, but this one gives a good primer Good find! This article approximately tells me what I already thought I knew about him. He was no Franklin Roosevelt or Martin Luther King Jr. – But Franklin Graham seems to be nothing like Billy Graham. What went wrong? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7670 "2021-10-08T05:20:21Z")
Well, the two men seem to be products of their generation. Billy Graham struggled with racism, anti semitism, and homophobia like many of his generation. But also carried a deep seated feeling of “the white man’s burden”. That it was his duty to help these poor unfortunates out of their situation. Franklin, on the other hand (also like many of his generation) sees things in a more nationalist view. He sees the best way to help his fellow Americans is to make America as strong as possible. If you make America great, you don’t have to help the unfortunate, they’ll be able to help themselves. It’s really two sides of the same coin. They both believe they are better than the rest, but have different ideas on how best to direct that “great responsibility”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/7671 "2021-10-08T08:39:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Except that’s _not_ what’s being objected to, Graham, you dishonest piece of excrement. Threatening violence is NOT the same thing as voicing ‘strong opinions.’ This seems to be one of the latest right-wing propaganda points going around - that harassing and threatening schools and teachers is just “expressing their concerns”, much in the same way that some people couch overt bigotry as a “difference of opinion”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=381) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=383)