# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8033 "2021-10-26T16:04:39Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Can it get any weirder?

You _know_ the answer to that will always be “yes”.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8034 "2021-10-26T16:11:48Z")

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Offered for context only,

> **[Bipartisan legislators demand answers from Fauci on ‘cruel’ puppy experiments](https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/578086-bipartisan-legislators-demand-answers-from-fauci/)**
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> “Our investigators show that Fauci’s NIH division shipped part of a $375,800 grant to a lab in Tunisia to drug beagles and lock their heads in mesh cages filled with hungry sand flies so that…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8035 "2021-10-26T16:28:13Z")

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And the amount of input that Fauci had in terms of awarding that grant, is about the same that Ray Crock has on the pickles being left out of my quarter pounder order.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8036 "2021-10-26T16:35:45Z")

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I particularly liked “Fauci’s NIH division shipped part of a $375,800 grant” like they put grant money into boxes and mail it?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8037 "2021-10-26T16:43:11Z")

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“Kroc,” not “Crock.”

Otherwise, completely agree.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8038 "2021-10-26T16:43:57Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > Its not as if people who hunt chained up animals are a specific ethinic group
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> I dunno, I’d say that, with only the slightest margin of error, that group is entirely white.

It does seem to be peculiar to rich people of Northern European extraction, but many other cultures also have their version of senseless and cruel killing of animals.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8039 "2021-10-26T22:16:00Z")

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Dana Milbank at WaPo explains what was really going on with that beagle puppy experiment, and largely debunks it. Something of the sort kinda-sorta did happen, but all those horrific stories are conflating two different experiments, and grotesquely exaggerating the horrific aspects beyond all reality.

> **[Opinion | Why is Anthony Fauci trying to kill my puppy?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/25/fauci-puppy-experiments-conspiracy-republicans/)**
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> The episode says more about the right-wing disinformation machine than anything else.

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> It turns out that this Tunisian study was erroneously [attributed](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8345872/)to NIAID _._ NIAID did, however, fund different research in Tunisia — and the beagles weren’t puppies, they weren’t euthanized, they weren’t “de-barked,” and they weren’t “trapped” so “flies could eat them alive.” The dogs were given an experimental vaccine and allowed to roam. There was a very good reason for this: Dogs are the main reservoir host (and flies the main vector) of the disease that was being studied, which affects half a million people a year, particularly children, and has a 6 percent mortality rate in Tunisia.
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> [. . .]
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> Had right-wing outlets checked with the NIH, they would know that in another study, which didn’t involve Tunisia and didn’t involve flies, NIAID-funded researchers did indeed perform cordectomies on 44 beagle puppies and euthanized them after the study. And here’s why: The Food and Drug Administration _requires_ researchers to experiment on non-rodent mammals for certain classes of HIV-AIDS drugs, and for this study specifically recommended dogs. It is _necessary_ to use young dogs (six to eight months) to assess whether the drugs retard growth. It is _mandatory_ that the dogs be euthanized so researchers can search for damage to organ systems. And it is _recommended_ by the Association for Assessment and Accreditation of Laboratory Animal Care that the dogs undergo cordectomies to reduce anxiety (in dogs) and hearing loss (in humans) from barking. (Beagles are used because of their uniform size.)
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> Above all, this is no frivolous pursuit: The drugs under study are promising next-generation antiretrovirals that can be administered to HIV/AIDS patients less frequently — potentially saving countless human lives.

ETA: I wonder about de-barking dogs to “reduce anxiety”. If they have no mouth and must scream, does that make it okay?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8040 "2021-10-26T22:24:16Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Had right-wing outlets checked with the NIH…

You lost them right here.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8041 "2021-10-26T22:26:12Z")

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Why check facts when making them up is not only easier but so much fun?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8042 "2021-10-26T22:30:24Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> ETA: I wonder about de-barking dogs to “reduce anxiety”. If they have no mouth and must scream, does that make it okay?

A not at all WAG? No barking reduces anxiety in the _other_ dogs.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8043 "2021-10-26T22:34:17Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> A not at all WAG? No barking reduces anxiety in the _other_ dogs.

Yeah, I get that, but it still can’t be nice for dogs in experiments like that. I wouldn’t want to be one of them.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8044 "2021-10-26T23:13:54Z")

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The official Republican Twitter account, just four hours apart:

> <https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1451669717127737355>

> <https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1451730098428710916>

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8045 "2021-10-26T23:21:38Z")

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“Have you forgotten doublethink?”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8046 "2021-10-26T23:39:59Z")

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At a Turning Point USA gathering, one person asked Charlie Kirk when they can start killing elections officials . He did say they shouldn’t, but he followed that up by saying that states should declare themselves free from federal laws and kick the federal government out of the states [https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/pushing-election-lies-tpusa-audience-member-asks-charlie-kirk-when-they-can-use-guns](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/pushing-election-lies-tpusa-audience-member-asks-charlie-kirk-when-they-can-use-guns)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8047 "2021-10-26T23:42:16Z")

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“Charlie Kirk (R) advises succession from the union and treason.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8048 "2021-10-27T00:07:20Z")

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A couple of weeks ago I saw a cartoon that showed an elephant lamenting, “The Mexicans are taking our jobs!” and in the second frame, “Why aren’t the Mexicans taking our jobs?”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8049 "2021-10-27T01:41:57Z")

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Mo Brooks says he would proud if his staffers had helped to organize the “stop the steal rally”. Well, yeah, if that was the real point.

> **[GOP congressman says he would be "proud" to learn his staff helped plan "Stop...](https://www.salon.com/2021/10/26/congressman-says-he-would-be-proud-to-learn-his-staff-helped-plan-stop-the-steal-rally/)**
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> Alabama Republican Rep. Mo Brooks called the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, D.C. "lawful"

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8050 "2021-10-27T01:47:00Z")

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MTG says that the Capitol riot was justified by the Declaration of Independence.

> **[Marjorie Taylor Greene Uses Declaration of Independence to Defend Violent...](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/marjorie-taylor-greene-uses-declaration-174121561.html)**
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> "Jan. 6 was just a riot," Greene said of the violent insurrection that left five dead and dozens injured

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8051 "2021-10-27T01:52:33Z")

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Gotta hand it to her! I mean, it’s not every day that someone openly admits to supporting actual, violent, insurrection against the United States.  
Don’t worry MTG, our people actually know how to build functioning gallows.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8052 "2021-10-27T05:56:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> MTG says that the Capitol riot was justified by the Declaration of Independence.

She may be a fucking blubbering idiot (okay, she absolutely is), but you can’t deny that she’s got shoe game.

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