# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8053 "2021-10-27T08:06:14Z")

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Dude. Really?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8054 "2021-10-27T14:58:26Z")

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Yeah, I have no particular allegiance to Mickey Rourke as a performer or activist, but soiling his image by trying to conflate it with that of Marjorie Taylor Greene in any way is base and indefensible slander.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8055 "2021-10-27T17:01:41Z")

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Doesn’t matter what level of debunking is done, the right wing believes it. I’ve heard this story at least a dozen times in the last couple of days. Being in the dog care industry certainly makes it more relevant, and my clients more apt to share.

People are more worked up about this than they were anything about COVID, masks, ivermectin, or even the “stolen” election.

Fauci was personally torturing puppies for fun, and nothing that you or I say about it will dissuade them from this belief.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8056 "2021-10-27T20:37:51Z")

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All right. I hereby send my sincere apologies to Mickey Rourke. Unlike MTG, he deserves better.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8057 "2021-10-27T20:51:56Z")

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In all of the innumerable video calls that Fauci made from (presumably) his home during lockdown, _did_ you _ever_ hear any barking ?

Exactly.

/s

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8058 "2021-10-27T20:54:51Z")

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Anyone willing to take a staple gun to the back for the sake of their art gets infinitely more respect from me than MTG.

Anyone in arms distance of MTG please don’t get any ideas.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8059 "2021-10-27T21:30:49Z")

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Speaking of MTG…

> **[Marjorie Taylor Greene invested as much as $50,000 in the Trump SPAC before...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/27/investing/trump-spac-dwac-marjorie-taylor-greene/index.html)**
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> Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene bought as much as $50,000 worth of shares in a shell company that is merging with former President Donald Trump's new media venture, according to a financial disclosure form.

Buy high. Sell low… Wait, what?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8060 "2021-10-27T21:46:36Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Buy high. Sell low… Wait, what?

Well, at least we know she wasn’t doing insider trading. Which I guess means she’s an outsider, since it’s a safe bet she _would_ cheat if she _could_.

The more interesting question is - was she stupid enough to honestly think this was a good investment, or was she knowingly throwing away good money as a show of loyalty to Trump?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8061 "2021-10-27T23:23:59Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The more interesting question is - was she stupid enough to honestly think this was a good investment, or was she knowingly throwing away good money as a show of loyalty to Trump?

This would be my take (the latter).

In her circles, it’s virtually an end run around campaign finance laws, and …

- If she makes money, she … makes money, but
- If she loses money, she both “bet on DJT” _and_ can deduct the loss against other capital gains

Most Congress Critters are far more evil than stupid. I’m still not ready to make a judgment about MTG, though.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8062 "2021-10-27T23:39:39Z")

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Lest you thought the San Francisco event was a fluke, In-n-Out has confirmed that it has joined forces with covid and is halting dine-in at all its locations in Contra Costa County rather than enforce the county’s vaccine mandate.

> **[Bay Area county says In-N-Out surrenders over health order](https://www.sfgate.com/bay-area-politics/article/In-N-Out-Bay-Area-vaccine-mandate-Contra-Costa-16568951.php)**
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> The county health department said In-N-Out has yet to pay any fines.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8063 "2021-10-27T23:46:03Z")

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What an imbecilic take on it. Halting dine-in is exactly the right thing to do if they don’t want to enforce the mandate.

If you really want moronic breathless hyperbole, it’s all the restaurants that are _continuing_ to serve dine-in that are joining forces with COVID, since even with vaccination there is still a transmission risk. Allowing dine-in at all is just a concession to restaurants, at the expense of some increased number of infections. _All_ dine-in should be banned if we really wanted to minimize infections.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8064 "2021-10-27T23:52:39Z")

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I almost stopped at an In N Out today, then I remembered this dickery.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8065 "2021-10-28T00:03:05Z")

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So, just for some humor, given that Ohio is a state run by Rs, and this is pretty stupid, they stamped out a very large batch of new license plates commemorating the “[Birthplace of Aviation](https://apnews.com/article/oddities-ohio-f6bf89e31fcec705890a62a325bc710d)” on a wavy banner attached to the empennage of the original Wright Flyer. Then some wiseguy observed that the empennage was canard-mounted on the front of the plane. Hilarity ensued.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8066 "2021-10-28T00:11:44Z")

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I almost asked “has anyone told them that Kitty Hawk is in a different state?” but apparently Congress already decided that Dayton is the Birthplace of Aviation. It’s hard to be certain, but [the North Carolina plates](https://i1.wp.com/www.tcctalon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/OpinionPiece1-Image1.jpg?w=1282&ssl=1) appear to have the Wright Flyer going in the right direction, given the way the grass is blowing.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8067 "2021-10-28T00:27:07Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> What an imbecilic take on it. Halting dine-in is exactly the right thing to do if they don’t want to enforce the mandate.

Not wanting to enforce the mandate is the imbecilic part. I used to think In-n-Out was a good company, but apparently they just don’t care if their employees and customers get sick.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8068 "2021-10-28T00:29:47Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> I almost asked “has anyone told them that Kitty Hawk is in a different state?” but apparently Congress already decided that Dayton is the Birthplace of Aviation. It’s hard to be certain, but [the North Carolina plates](https://i1.wp.com/www.tcctalon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/OpinionPiece1-Image1.jpg?w=1282&ssl=1) appear to have the Wright Flyer going in the right direction, given the way the grass is blowing.

Kinda reminds me of this:

> **[Inverted Jenny](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_Jenny)**
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> The Inverted Jenny (also known as an Upside Down Jenny, Jenny Invert) is a 24 cent United States postage stamp first issued on May 10, 1918, in which the image of the Curtiss JN-4 airplane in the center of the design is printed upside-down; it is one of the most famous errors in American philately. Only one pane of 100 of the invert stamps was ever found, making this error one of the most prized in philately.
> A single Inverted Jenny was sold at a Robert A. Siegel auction in November 2007 for $97...

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8069 "2021-10-28T00:36:47Z")

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That makes zero sense. For one thing, the mandate includes employee vaccinations, something that they haven’t expressed any pushback for whatsoever. So there is zero evidence that they are somehow vaccine denialists or anything of the sort. The county does not appear to have any problem with their treatment of employees.

There is a cost to enforcing the mandate. Many restaurants feel that this cost is worth continuing dine-in. In-n-Out does not; it’s entirely their right. And it should be no surprise either, since it’s in their _very fucking name_ that they are highly focused on drive-thru. They see the lost dine-in business as less than the cost of checking vaccination status at the door.

You would have reasonable criticism if they continued to violate the order well after being told not to. They did not. They complied with the order by not offering dine-in.

The net result is that their customers and employees are _better_ off than a typical restaurant that is still offering dine-in, which carries unavoidable risks even with vaccine enforcement.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8070 "2021-10-28T00:42:19Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> There is a cost to enforcing the mandate.

How much does it cost to say “Can I see your vaccine card?”

> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> And it should be no surprise either, since it’s in their _very fucking name_ that they are highly focused on drive-thru. They see the lost dine-in business as less than the cost of checking vaccination status at the door.

It’s been some time since I set foot in an In-n-Out, but when I did, every table in the place was taken. They’re shooting themselves in the foot over a nonsensical refusal to enforce common sense health measures. At this point I can’t have confidence that they don’t want to avoid the cost of regular handwashing and not handling raw meat with bare hands.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8071 "2021-10-28T00:57:32Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Buy high. Sell low… Wait, what?

> On the day Greene made the trade, Digital World Acquisition Corp. traded in a very wide range between $67.96 and $175. At best, the investment would be in the red slightly compared with current trading levels.

So she’s one of the RUBES, who was sucked in by the Pump n Dump scam. I can’t tell you how much this makes me laugh.

These people are _so fucking stupid._

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8072 "2021-10-28T00:57:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> How much does it cost to say “Can I see your vaccine card?”

The cost of one employee that has to be posted at the door. Ordinary seated restaurants have a host that can perform this task. Fast food does not. Perhaps the county allows the people that take orders to perform this task, but if so the rule is stupid–the unvaccinated person has already been standing in line for a while in close proximity to others.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> It’s been some time since I set foot in an In-n-Out, but when I did, every table in the place was taken.

The one near me has greatly increased the efficiency of their drive-thru, breaking up the ordering and payment steps. All the employees use quality masks and take reasonable anti-spread measures like distancing, opt-in for paper receipts, and no-touch payments. It’s as safe as anything else I’ve seen (and generally more so).

The entire kitchen area is entirely covered by windows, so if you have any doubts about their general food safety measures, you can assuage them easily.

I highly doubt they’ll experience even a slight loss of business here. But even if they did, that’s just a business decision on their part that might have been wrong. They aren’t putting anyone’s safety at risk with this decision.

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