# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8856 "2021-12-08T19:42:48Z")

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Wharrgarbl. Wharrgarbl wharrgarbl wharrgarbl.

> **[Marjorie Taylor Greene: Jan. 6 Defendants Are Being Taught Critical Race...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjorie-taylor-greene-jan-6-defendants_n_61afdee6e4b07c4c95c459ad)**
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> The Republican also complained that white defendants charged in the Capitol riot are being discriminated against “because of the color of their skin.”

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> Local officials and activists have long been aware of the (DC) jail’s inhumane conditions, and Greene’s report describes human feces and other bodily fluids on the walls of cramped cells. But notably, these problems [only recently received attention](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/dc-jail-jan-6.html) after Trump supporters held in connection to the riot [and their right-wing allies](https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2021/11/suddenly-the-far-right-wants-to-fix-the-dc-jail-it-just-took-locking-up-some-white-insurrectionists/) complained about them.

_wharrgarbl_

> [@MT Wharrgarbl Green](#):
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> They were isolated in a separate wing of the jail, where they are abused, where they are ridiculed, where they are mocked because of their political beliefs and because of January 6, and because of the color of their skin,” she claimed. “So there is a two-tiered justice system, and these are the things that need to end.
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> … They’re being represented by public defenders that call them white supremacists, tell them they have to denounce President Trump, tell them they have to denounce their political views, want them to watch videos and _ **read books** _ **that basically is critical race theory** training, in order for them to have this public defender represent them.

Yeah, this “read books” thing, she should not be speaking of things beyond her .17caliber comprehension.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8857 "2021-12-08T19:42:49Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I don’t know how it varies state by state, but I do know you can legally own them.

It looks like you can own full auto in KY. I read an M60 goes for $200K! (when you can find one for sale) I’ll take the Ferrari, it’s more useful

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8858 "2021-12-08T19:50:57Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> It looks like you can own full auto in KY. I read an M60 goes for $200K! (when you can find one for sale) I’ll take the Ferrari, it’s more useful -

Ever try to suppress a fair election with a Ferrari?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8859 "2021-12-08T19:52:06Z")

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> [@MT Wharrgarbl Green](#):
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> So there is a two-tiered justice system, and these are the things that need to end.

I eagerly await her criminal justice reform bill.

Imagine being 47 years old and discovering that our justice system is unnecessarily cruel.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8860 "2021-12-08T19:55:33Z")

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They have no problem with a two-tiered “justice” system — or cruelty — as long as the bottom tier and cruelty are reserved for the right people (aka “Them”).

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8861 "2021-12-08T19:57:53Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Greene’s report describes human feces and other bodily fluids on the walls

Well, duh. The January 6 insurrectionists are in there, and that’s how they roll.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8862 "2021-12-08T20:10:19Z")

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I would point out that Oxford MI, location of the recent school shooting is a fairly conservative community and those Congresscritters posting gun pics are doing so when some folks who might be, broadly speaking, their folks have lost family members. Perhaps they might be rethinking their affiliation, though.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8863 "2021-12-08T20:20:08Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> GunNuts, harder than GrapeNuts

But, unlike Grapenuts, GunNuts contain both guns and nuts.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8864 "2021-12-08T22:01:02Z")

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Seriously, tribal coherence is a powerful force. Part of the process is re-enforcing coherence, through these types of fetish displays. The point is to keep whomever from having thoughts that stray from the fold.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8865 "2021-12-08T22:23:27Z")

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David Brooks is whining again… let me get out my teeny violin. 🎻

> **[What Happened to American Conservatism?](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/brooks-true-conservatism-dead-fox-news-voter-suppression/620853/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> The rich philosophical tradition I fell in love with has been reduced to Fox News and voter suppression.

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> What passes for “conservatism” now, however, is nearly the opposite of the Burkean conservatism I encountered then. Today, what passes for the worldview of “the right” is [a set of resentful animosities](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/scary-future-american-right-national-conservatism-conference/620746/), a partisan attachment to Donald Trump or Tucker Carlson, a sort of mental brutalism. The rich philosophical perspective that dazzled me then has been reduced to Fox News and voter suppression.
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> I recently went back and reread the yellowing conservatism books that I have lugged around with me over the decades. I wondered whether I’d be embarrassed or ashamed of them, knowing what conservatism has devolved into. I have to tell you that I wasn’t embarrassed; I was enthralled all over again, and I came away thinking that conservatism is truer and more profound than ever—and that **to be a conservative today, you have to oppose much of [what the Republican Party has come to stand for](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/republican-party-america-democracy-in-crisis/620839/).**
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> This essay is a reclamation project. It is an attempt to remember how modern conservatism started, what core wisdom it contains, and why that wisdom is still needed today.  
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My bold.

He got that part right, although I would amend that to read “to be a **decent human being** today you have to oppose…,” etc., etc…

I read _most_ of the very long article and I think David has mistaken what he is calling “conservatism” for… well… _liberalism,_ at least liberalism as I recall it being defined in my college political science classes.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8866 "2021-12-08T22:30:19Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> the take-away here is that it’s pretty insane no matter what.

Please imagine I was able to find the image of Jack Sparrow reacting to Will Turner accusing him of cheating, and made a meme of it:

_Republican!_

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8867 "2021-12-08T22:40:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> … at least liberalism as I recall it being defined in my college political science classes.

Wow, you must be a lot younger than me. I remember being uncomfortable with James Earl Carter because he was too conservative. And really, when you look at many of his policies, he was pretty darn conservative. The whole savings and loan crisis of the late '80s was largely due to a policy Carter established in the late '70s.

In truth, you can be a decent, caring person and still be so short-sighted that the things you think will make life better will do the opposite. An actual conservative will be willing to adapt to make improvements when they see that the old way is causing problems. Modern RWers are not like that. They see that it is not working so they just say that we are not doing it hard enough.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8868 "2021-12-08T23:43:34Z")

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Tucker Carlson says that covid “feminizes” people by “taking away the life force”.

> **[Tucker Carlson: Getting COVID “does feminize people. No one ever says that...](https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-getting-covid-does-feminize-people-no-one-ever-says-its-true)**

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8869 "2021-12-08T23:51:10Z")

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I hope he takes some airtime to explain why and how bad it is for people to become more like women and why women are, inherently and objectively, bad.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8870 "2021-12-09T00:00:22Z")

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Life force? Heck, we can give birth. Does he really believe this or is it a ploy for ratings?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8871 "2021-12-09T00:06:47Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Life force? Heck, we can give birth. Does he really believe this or is it a ploy for ratings? -

I’d guess Carlson genuinely believes male-supremacist things (such as that females are anti-life-force or whatever the hell theory he’s selling). Pro-authoritarianism implies pro-hierarchy, and the most basic of pro-hierarchy beliefs includes the “fact” that one gender is inherently inferior to the other.

And sadly, women who watch his show will just accept that they are inferior and that it’s God’s plan and whatnot—so this new initiative won’t hurt Tucker’s ratings at all.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8872 "2021-12-09T00:10:53Z")

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So, if I’m following Tucker’s logic correctly, he is saying that getting COVID is a bad thing, yah? 'Cause it makes one more girly. So, one should try to not get COVID, yah?

Let’s see, how are some ways to not get COVID…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8873 "2021-12-09T00:25:06Z")

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By getting covid, of course!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8874 "2021-12-09T00:38:35Z")

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Why do anti-vaxxers keep getting COVID? It’s A Conspriacy!!

> **[Guest on Pillow Man-affiliated talk show thinks it's suspicious that...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/12/8/2068299/-Guest-on-Pillow-Man-affiliated-talk-show-thinks-it-s-suspicious-that-anti-vaxxers-keep-getting-COVID)**
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> Stew Peters is a seriously weird dude whom I’d be blissfully unaware of were it not for his regular slot on Pillow Man Mike Lindell’s sprawling vomit trough of a website, Frankspeech.com. DeAnna Lorraine is a prominent QAnon adherent who … well,...

> …I’m sure that they have the power to target somebody to get COVID. All the very prominent Republicans and people who have been outspoken against vaccines—pastors, etc.—suddenly they come down with a bad case of COVID and it makes the news: ‘Anti-vaxxer, anti-masker pastor comes down with COVID.’ It’s all too suspicious, and I absolutely think people are being targeted…

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8876 "2021-12-09T01:44:18Z")

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Mark Meadows is suing the 1/6 committee and Nancy Pelosi to prevent being subpoenaed.

> **[Mark Meadows sues House January 6 committee to block subpoenas | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html)**
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> Former Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows is suing the House select committee investigating January 6 and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, asking a federal court to block enforcement of the subpoena the committee issued him as well as the...

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