# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 445
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8918 "2021-12-11T21:42:27Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The FN-MAG/M-240, So, it’s Nazi-derived, too. Gotcha. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8919 "2021-12-11T21:49:56Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > So, it’s Nazi-derived, too. Gotcha. 😉 Not entirely. I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure it also has a lot of BAR in its ancestry, too. But yeah, the Nazis made some good guns. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8920 "2021-12-11T22:04:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > But yeah, the Nazis made some good guns. As did John Browning. We should probably drop this hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8921 "2021-12-11T23:41:36Z")
Fox claiming burning their tree is the same as Pearl Harbor. > **[Fox News Christmas Tree Attack Was Just Like Pearl Harbor Because Here's Why](https://www.wonkette.com/fox-news-christmas-tree-attack-was-just-like-pearl-harbor-because-here-s-why)** > > The tree has been rebuilt and relit, SUCK IT LIBS. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8922 "2021-12-11T23:45:59Z")
I’d say it’s more like a Gulf of Tonkin, or maybe a Reichstag. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8923 "2021-12-12T00:14:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Fox claiming burning their tree is the same as Pearl Harbor. > [Fox News Christmas Tree Attack Was Just Like Pearl Harbor Because Here's Why](https://www.wonkette.com/fox-news-christmas-tree-attack-was-just-like-pearl-harbor-because-here-s-why) A sneak attack by the Japanese? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8924 "2021-12-12T00:15:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’d say it’s more like a Gulf of Tonkin, or maybe a Reichstag. I think it’s more like when I stubbed my toe this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8925 "2021-12-12T01:12:52Z")
I’ve enjoyed the reaction to Ben Shapiro’s sister trying to shame Madonna as trashy by comparing Nancy Reagan at the same age as an example of classic living. It backfired as all the old gossip and stories about Nancy’s days in Hollywood have resurfaced. I have no problem with how she engaged as an actress but I suppose the point is this idea that she is an icon of wholesomeness is just like the entire narrative conservatives peddle about family values - it’s a myth. If it was really a virtue for them why did they hate the Obama’s so much who by any logical metric are a great example of family values? I always felt Obama or people on his behalf should have leaned into that hypocrisy of the right more during his presidency. He was probably too classy to go there. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8926 "2021-12-12T01:29:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Fox claiming burning their tree is the same as Pearl Harbor. > [Fox News Christmas Tree Attack Was Just Like Pearl Harbor Because Here's Why](https://www.wonkette.com/fox-news-christmas-tree-attack-was-just-like-pearl-harbor-because-here-s-why) _The Daily Show_ has a good 1 minute 17 second compilation of Fox News hosts posturing as _History’s Most Victimized Victims_ and _Nobly-Determined Victims Pledging To Carry On in the Face of Cruel Victimization_ (due to a homeless guy lighting their tree on fire): > ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8927 "2021-12-12T01:31:39Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > If it was really a virtue for them why did they hate the Obama’s so much who by any logical metric are a great example of family values? You know the answer to this! ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8928 "2021-12-12T02:12:13Z")
The homeless man was obviously a democrat, or, as my maganut acquaintance would say, communist. 🎄🚒 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8929 "2021-12-12T02:15:47Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > I’ve enjoyed the reaction to Ben Shapiro’s sister trying to shame Madonna as trashy by comparing Nancy Reagan at the same age as an example of classic living. I wouldn’t mind enjoying that myself. Can you point me to where I might partake, please? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8930 "2021-12-12T02:26:44Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > why did they hate the Obama’s so much who by any logical metric are a great example of family values? > [@bobot](#): > > You know the answer to this! I know! I know! 🙋‍♀️ Because they were both too TALL! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8931 "2021-12-12T02:33:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > > [@Alessan](#): > > > > The FN-MAG/M-240, > > So, it’s Nazi-derived, too. Gotcha. 😉 If you’ve got problems with the origins of Israel’s machine guns, never look into the origins of the US space program… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8932 "2021-12-12T02:37:59Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@dropzone](#): > > > > > [@Alessan](#): > > > > > > The FN-MAG/M-240, > > > > So, it’s Nazi-derived, too. Gotcha. 😉 > > If you’ve got problems with the origins of Israel’s machine guns, never look into the origins of the US space program… - [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QEJ9HrZq7Ro/hqdefault.jpg "Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro) ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8933 "2021-12-12T02:44:34Z")
She’s been trending all day along with Throat Goat. Lot of funny reactions here: [https://twitter.com/search?q=nancy%20reagan&src=typed\_query](https://twitter.com/search?q=nancy%20reagan&src=typed_query) > **[Conservative tries roasting Madonna with comparison to Nancy Reagan – it...](https://www.indy100.com/viral/conservative-shapiro-madonna-nancy-reagan-b1974203)** > > A conservative content creator with more than 95,000 subscribers on YouTube has been ridiculed online after she tried to pit Madonna against Nancy Reagan, the late wife of Ronald Reagan and former first lady.In a tweet which was more vague... [![](https://i.imgur.com/xdcA5Rg.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/xdcA5Rg.png) [![](https://i.imgur.com/CLWW7AR.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/CLWW7AR.png) [![](https://i.imgur.com/OXnJqPv.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/OXnJqPv.png) [![](https://i.imgur.com/an2YHkn.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/an2YHkn.png) Should be noted this is not new news. The story was written in a book a few years after Ronald Reagan’s presidency ended so it’s been out there for 30 years. And Peter Lawford spoke about it too. Old Hollywood gossip is quite messy but often came straight from the players involved. They were much more open about telling all about fellow stars. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8934 "2021-12-12T03:17:29Z")
The point is that Nancy was famous and popular because of who she was married to, which is how it should be, not famous on her own for being both a creative and marketing force of nature for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8935 "2021-12-12T05:22:07Z")
Perhaps he was just a Swedish tourist who assumed the tree was our equivalent of the _Gävlebocken_. > **[Gävle goat](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > The Gävle Goat (Swedish: Gävlebocken, Swedish pronunciation: \[ˈjɛ̌ːvlɛbɔkːɛn\]) is a traditional Christmas display erected annually at Slottstorget (Castle Square) in central Gävle, Sweden. The display is a giant version of a traditional Swedish Yule Goat figure made of straw. It is erected each year by local community groups at the beginning of Advent over a period of two days. > The Gävle Goat has been the subject of repeated arson attacks; de... ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8936 "2021-12-12T05:51:40Z")
Or revenge. > In 2001, the goat was burned down by a 51-year-old visitor from [Cleveland, Ohio](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland,_Ohio) in the United States, who spent 18 days in jail and was subsequently convicted and ordered to pay 100,000 [Swedish kronor](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_krona) in damages. The court confiscated his cigarette lighter with the argument that he clearly was not able to handle it. He stated in court that he was no “goat burner”, and believed that he was taking part in a completely legal goat-burning tradition. After he was released from jail he returned to the US without paying his fine. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/8937 "2021-12-12T12:32:30Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > He stated in court that he was no “goat burner”, and believed that he was taking part in a completely legal goat-burning tradition. “I’m no goat-burner, I was just burning goats!” Yeah, that sounds like the Republicans these days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=444) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=446)