# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/986 "2020-09-22T13:23:57Z")
[GOP logic] He was lying then so it doesn’t count. [/ GOP l] ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/987 "2020-09-22T13:43:20Z")
I hope someone is guarding the coffin as the late Justice Ginsburg lies in repose in the Capitol; the Republicans are so without honor that I wouldn’t put it past them to rob her corpse. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/988 "2020-09-22T15:39:16Z")
Technically, as someone who was part of the U.S. government or a member of the military, she is “lying in state” in the U.S. Capitol. Rosa Parks lay in honor after her death in 2005. When Ted Kennedy’s casket was displayed at the John F. Kennedy Library (a non-governmental building) he was lying in repose. I just looked this stuff up yesterday. I hadn’t realized the distinctions before. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/989 "2020-09-22T18:24:14Z")
I just saw a report that said she’s going to lie in repose at the Supreme Court and in state at the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/990 "2020-09-22T18:39:29Z")
After the voters in Florida passed a proposition which allowed felons to vote, the legislature passed a new law that said, “OK, you can vote, so long as you pay off the costs of keeping you in prison first.” A state court ruled the law is constitutional. And so Michael Bloomberg claims he has raised $16 million to pay off the obligations of some 30 thousand felons. > **[Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote/)** > > Billionaire Michael Bloomberg has reportedly raised more than $16 million in an effort to help convicted felons in Florida register to vote. The Florida Rights Restoration Coalition estimated … ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/991 "2020-09-22T18:46:13Z")
That’s a spectacular “fuck you” to the Republicans. I assume they will now accuse him of buying votes. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/992 "2020-09-22T19:13:37Z")
I will point to the Republicans that in previous discussions it was noted that being an ex-felon is not a guarantee that they would vote for democratic candidates. AFAICR there were reports that a democratic lean is due because it is mostly the Democrats the ones who are willing to return a right to guys that already did pay their debt to society with their time in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/993 "2020-09-22T20:02:13Z")
Relying on my memory because a quick Google didn’t find a cite for this: There is also the issue that no one knows for sure what people owe, and even if they pay what someone tells them is the correct amount, if it turns out that they still owe something and vote it is apparently a felony. Yeah, that’s fucked up, but it is Florida after all. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/994 "2020-09-22T22:59:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That’s a spectacular “fuck you” to the Republicans. **I assume they will now accuse him of buying votes.** Only possible because they put a dollar-price on the votes to begin with. (My emphasis.) Only the most gymnastic right-wing mind could define the ‘must pay all fines + restitution’ ruling as anything other than a poll tax—which, of course, is specifically prohibited in the U.S. Constitution (24th Amendment). (AP on the ruling: [Judges: Florida felons can't vote until they pay fines, fees | AP News](https://apnews.com/b4f68dd4f11a6df4430fbdc74ae93de3) ) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/995 "2020-09-22T23:09:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > And so Michael Bloomberg claims he has raised $16 million to pay off the obligations of some 30 thousand felons. So my question is: raised? Raised? The guy with $55 billion dollars to his name “raised” $16 million? FFS, Mike Bloomberg could drop $16 million dollars more than 3400 times. He’d never notice it was gone if he did it just once AND the interest he makes on his money would prolly cover the loss in a day or two. I’m not impressed by a guy who’s rich as fuck “raising” money. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/996 "2020-09-22T23:12:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So my question is: raised? Raised? The guy with $55 billion dollars to his name “raised” $16 million? FFS, Mike Bloomberg could drop $16 million dollars more than 3400 times. He’d never notice it was gone if he did it just once AND the interest he makes on his money would prolly cover the loss in a day or two. If he’s ALSO giving millions, then the “raising” seems reasonable. When people give money, they become more invested in an outcome. Bloomberg may be doing more than simply providing cash–he may be encouraging activism. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/997 "2020-09-22T23:32:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Only the most gymnastic right-wing mind could define the ‘must pay all fines + restitution’ ruling as anything other than a poll tax—which, of course, is specifically prohibited in the U.S. Constitution (24th Amendment). The argument could be that criminals lose their rights upon conviction, so Constitutional protections do not apply to them. Because, nowhere in there does it say anything about “cruel and unusual punishment”. ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/998 "2020-09-23T00:00:20Z")
There also does not need to be a way to find out how much is owed. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/999 "2020-09-23T00:05:00Z")
Pennsylvania: > **[Judge declines to stay ruling on Pennsylvania crowd size](https://apnews.com/general-news-21859419cee2ad1c5350f68c045671eb)** > > A federal judge is declining to stay his own ruling that Gov. Tom Wolf’s size limits on gatherings are unconstitutional. U.S. > [@](#): > > U.S. District Judge William Stickman IV said the administration had failed to show “imminent and irreparable harm will occur” if the state can’t limit event crowds to 25 people inside and 250 people outside. > [@](#): > > Rejecting the state’s request for a stay, the judge said Tuesday that state officials failed to explain why they have allowed commercial businesses to operate at a percentage of their capacity — meaning hundreds of shoppers inside a large store, for example — while capping numerical attendance at social, political, cultural and other gatherings. This could have a huge impact all over the US. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1000 "2020-09-23T02:46:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I just saw a report that said she’s going to lie in repose at the Supreme Court and in state at the Capitol. But she’ll spin with great angular momentum in her grave when when she sees that the Repubs do to her seat on the Court. May she lie in repose while she can. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1001 "2020-09-23T03:01:36Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > There is also the issue that no one knows for sure what people owe, and even if they pay what someone tells them is the correct amount, if it turns out that they still owe something and vote it is apparently a felony. I read, somewhere, an article clarifying that: Nobody knows the total amount owed by all ex-cons statewide. That’s because they are scattered among state and local jurisdictions all over the state, and those can’t easily be all collected and added up. However, for any particular individual in some particular jurisdiction, that jurisdiction would know exactly how much that person owes. ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1002 "2020-09-23T03:38:25Z")
From the September 11 AP story: “But Pryor wrote that it’s not the state’s responsibility to create a system to let felons know what they owe.” [https://apnews.com/b4f68dd4f11a6df4430fbdc74ae93de3](https://apnews.com/b4f68dd4f11a6df4430fbdc74ae93de3) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1003 "2020-09-23T04:55:13Z")
Ted Cruz blocks a Senate resolution honoring RGB because it mentions her dying wish. > **[Cruz blocks RBG resolution, objecting to mention of her dying wish to keep...](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/09/22/cruz-blocks-rgb-resolution-objecting-to-mention-of-her-dying-wish-keep-seat-open-for-next-president/)** > > WASHINGTON – The Senate on Tuesday failed to pass a resolution honoring the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg after Texas Sen. Ted Cruz... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1004 "2020-09-23T06:44:52Z")
Conservative pastor says his prayers were responsible for RBG dying. > **['No Accident': Conservative Pastor Says His Prayer Was Cause of RBG's Death](https://www.newsweek.com/no-accident-conservative-pastor-says-his-prayer-responsible-ruth-bader-ginsbergs-death-1533702)** > > "President Trump will establish a new Supreme Court justice," Pastor Robert Henderson said. "That's no accident." ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1005 "2020-09-23T08:37:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Conservative pastor says his prayers were responsible for RBG dying. That’s just unconscionable. I want to hear how big his congregation is, and how they react to sacrileges like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140.md?page=51)