# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140 "2020-06-22T07:01:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1226 "2020-10-10T16:41:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Straight conservative commentators think the ladies are hot for Mike Pence.

You’re _sure_ it’s not just projection (again)?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1227 "2020-10-10T16:58:02Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> I don’t know…he doesn’t seem all that interested in letting a woman finish.

Winner.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1228 "2020-10-11T00:03:45Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > I wouldn’t take any bets that depended on the White House remaining standing by January 20.
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> > A nice fire (or massive explosion) will cover up a whole host of absences of White House art/historic objects.
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> Terrorists did it, of course. Auntie Fa.

Under the direction of Hillary.

But, yeah: classified information could put more dollars into the Trump family coffers than could sale of portraits of Presidents, if it’s the right kind of classified information:

> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> I’d be more concerned about server drives and laptops.

It’s been widely speculated that US intelligence agencies have worked very hard to limit what Trump–and more importantly, Jared–see. So perhaps they haven’t been able to make as much dough off the intel as they’d originally hoped.

Much that is unknown now, may eventually become at least partly known—assuming we escape the dictatorship and see the Trump regime members safely tied up in courtrooms across the land.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1229 "2020-10-11T00:06:25Z")

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Can somebody explain to me what Lindsey Graham means when he says that black and immigrants can only travel around South Carolina if they’re conservatives?

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1230 "2020-10-11T00:06:54Z")

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I was more concerned about Trump and his co-conspirators destroying evidence. A fire would be real convenient.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1231 "2020-10-11T00:16:42Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> I was more concerned about Trump and his co-conspirators destroying evidence. A fire would be real convenient.

True. It’s so obvious a play for them that I’d expect the betting sites to be taking wagers on it. (I suppose the sites would have to be very careful in their wording, though, to avoid unwelcome Bureau attention.)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1232 "2020-10-11T00:18:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Can somebody explain to me what Lindsey Graham means when he says that black and immigrants can only travel around South Carolina if they’re conservatives?

I don’t have the quote but I think it referred to “going places” in one’s career, rather than to limitations of actual physical travel.

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> “I care about everybody,” Graham said. “If you’re a young African American, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state, you just need to be conservative, not liberal.”

> **[Lindsey Graham in debate forum: Black people can go anywhere in SC politics,...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/10/lindsey-graham-black-people-can-go-anywhere-sc-if-conservative/5954115002/)**
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> "I can say without any doubt, you can be an African American and go to the Senate, you just have to share the values of our state," Graham said.

I still am seeing career advice there–specifically ‘work in government’ advice.

But who knows what the COVID-19 may be doing to Lindsey’s brain…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1233 "2020-10-11T00:54:49Z")

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It looks like Pennsylvania Republicans have given up on the scheme to concoct some sort of excuse to declare victory for Trump regardless of the actual vote:

> **[Pennsylvania House Republicans Drop Plans To Set Up 'Election Integrity' Panel](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/pennsylvania-house-republicans-drop-plans-to-set-up-election-integrity-panel/)**
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> House Republicans in Pennsylvania are dropping plans to fast-track an effort to set up a Republican-majority election panel with subpoena power.

On a more fundamental level, the “appoint our electors no matter who wins” ploy to overturn the election is running into the fact that it’s looking increasingly likely that at least three or four states would all have to flip their electors to change the outcome, leaving any politician who actually makes a move in that direction at risk of accomplishing nothing but pissing off the state’s voters.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1234 "2020-10-11T00:58:52Z")

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Thank the good Lord! That one actually had me a little scared.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1235 "2020-10-11T01:00:14Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But who knows what the COVID-19 may be doing to Lindsey’s brain… -

🎶 “If he only had a brain…” 🎶

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1236 "2020-10-11T01:08:18Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> On a more fundamental level, the “appoint our electors no matter who wins” ploy to overturn the election is running into the fact that it’s looking increasingly likely that at least three or four states would all have to flip their electors to change the outcome, leaving any politician who actually makes a move in that direction at risk of accomplishing nothing but pissing off the state’s voters.

To me, this was always the rather large fly in that ointment. Actively going against the wishes of the voters does not bode well for the political career of the dumbass politician who goes along with it.

Which isn’t to say there aren’t enough dumbass Republicans out there to indulge in the overheated fantasy of doing it. @Trinopus and I shared the same unease.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1237 "2020-10-11T01:59:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > But who knows what the COVID-19 may be doing to Lindsey’s brain… -
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> 🎶 “If he only had a brain…” 🎶

Lindsey has a brain. What he lacks is courage.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1238 "2020-10-11T02:10:37Z")

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And a heart.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1239 "2020-10-11T02:30:31Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> “I care about everybody,” Graham said. “If you’re a young African American, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state, you just need to be conservative, not liberal.”

IOW, get your black ass out of this red state.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1240 "2020-10-11T02:31:55Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> 🎶 “If he only had a brain…” 🎶

> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Lindsey has a brain. What he lacks is courage.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> And a heart.

But he has the nerve.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1241 "2020-10-11T14:36:58Z")

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US intelligence agencies are limited in what they can withhold from the president. He can see what he wants to see.

They don’t have to tell him about things he doesn’t know, but that’s riding a fine line.

Foreign intelligence, however, is under no obligation to share what they know with us. And, knowing that any intel they share with us is compromised by Trump, they have pulled back substantially in what they share, leaving us blind to a great deal of what is going on in the world.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1242 "2020-10-11T15:38:12Z")

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Speaking of Lindsey Graham, the Lincoln Project has a [hilarious new ad](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=762638274301082) out skewering him.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1243 "2020-10-11T16:01:52Z")

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All we need is one daring individual to change Trump’s password to all lowercase. He’d never think of trying his name without all caps.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1244 "2020-10-11T23:25:06Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > “I care about everybody,” Graham said. “If you’re a young African American, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state, you just need to be conservative, not liberal.”
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> IOW, get your black ass out of this red state.

That, or ‘_learn your place and keep to your place_’—presumably of fetching coffee and donuts for your GOP superiors, while being suitably deferential.

Lindsey was pretty clear on the fact, as he sees it, that “African Americans” and “immigrants” are free to genuflect to white conservatives, but not free to express any ideas that might annoy white conservatives.

Same as it ever was.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-1/911140/1245 "2020-10-11T23:29:13Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> US intelligence agencies are limited in what they can withhold from the president. He can see what he wants to see.
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> They don’t have to tell him about things he doesn’t know, but that’s riding a fine line.
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> Foreign intelligence, however, is under no obligation to share what they know with us. And, knowing that any intel they share with us is compromised by Trump, they have pulled back substantially in what they share, leaving us blind to a great deal of what is going on in the world.

Yes. All those making excuses for Trump, while having any remote idea of what’s going on the world,\* have to be doing some major self-deluding. There is no question at all that the USA is far weaker and far less able to deal with threats, than was the case in 2016.

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\*admittedly the majority of those making excuses for Trump have NO idea what’s going on in the world. But there are some who realize how he’s weakened us, yet still defend him. There’s some fancy double-think going on, there.

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