# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/21 "2022-02-07T14:25:13Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> brain **sturgeon** Jesus Guy

There’s a joke there somewhere, but it’s too early for me to find it.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/22 "2022-02-07T14:37:18Z")

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♪ Jesus-Guy Jesus-Guy  
Nail Him to a cross  
And He won’t die♫

Say, nice hand basket. Where’re we headed?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/23 "2022-02-07T14:37:55Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Heck, the Log Cabin Republicans are still around

Those are the ones I _really_ can’t figure out. The GQP wants you DEAD, people! They aren’t joking!

Maybe they think being the last ones killed in the genocidal purge is “winning”? Like Batlar in classic BSG. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/24 "2022-02-07T14:57:48Z")

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Looking at their website, I suspect that there aren’t too many homosexuals actually involved in that group.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/25 "2022-02-07T16:35:15Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Maybe they think being the last ones killed in the genocidal purge is “winning”? Like Batlar in classic BSG.

Cthulhu. The folks that worship him are hoping they’ll be eaten last.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/26 "2022-02-07T16:35:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> brain **sturgeon** Jesus Guy

> [@Railer13](#):
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> There’s a joke there somewhere, but it’s too early for me to find it.

He’s the caviar in Roe v Wade.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/27 "2022-02-07T16:36:36Z")

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First. They want to spare themselves the madness that Cthulhu’s coming would bring.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/28 "2022-02-07T16:38:44Z")

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🫤 You’re right. It’s been a while.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/29 "2022-02-07T16:40:42Z")

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Seriously, regarding Black and Gay, and Female(?), Republicans - it is a bit patronizing to think that membership in one of those classes conveys some sort of cognitive superpower that makes them immune to the GOP messaging. _Everyone_ is susceptible to cognitive dissonance. People be people.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/30 "2022-02-07T16:54:12Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Cthulhu. The folks that worship him are hoping they’ll be eaten last.

I am reminded of the _Illuminati_ rule that an Illuminati with no puppets after the third turn is eliminated from the game – except that if Cthulhu destroys its last puppet and thereby reaches its goal of eight destroyed groups, instead of being eliminated they win.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/31 "2022-02-07T17:36:45Z")

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Well, there are 3,000 counties in the US, the vast majority of which have county boards or mayors or the like, not to mention other miscellaneous offices like Sheriff. Then given that there are probably multiple Republicans running for these offices so conservatively there are probably at least 4,000-8,000 Republicans running for local office so that the 40 Black candidates are almost surely less than 1% of the total.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/32 "2022-02-07T17:48:04Z")

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A friend of mine had a gay friend in NC, who regularly voted for Strom Thurmond, who was, shall we say, no friend to the LGBTQ+ community. When asked why on earth he’d do that, his response was that gay was not all he was and he was voting on other issues.

I don’t get it, but it’s as good a reason as any, I suppose. I’ve tried not to be a single issue voter myself, but at this point I’m at “I’m never voting for a Republican again”, even if they’re the only ones on the ballot.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/33 "2022-02-07T18:04:20Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> A friend of mine had a gay friend in NC, who regularly voted for Strom Thurmond,

That would have been voter fraud.

Now if your friend was from _South_ Carolina, on the other hand…

Or were they voting for Jesse Helms? Two peas from the same pod.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/34 "2022-02-07T18:06:43Z")

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You know, it might have been Jesse Helms, at that. Strom sounded wrong, but they were both reactionary bigots.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/35 "2022-02-07T18:11:13Z")

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More o those Trump Presidential Burn Bags

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> Trump’s team reportedly implemented protocols to deal with the torn records, which involved “jigsawing the documents back together with clear tape.”
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> “It is unclear how many records were lost or permanently destroyed through Trump’s ripping routine, as well as what consequences, if any, he might face. Hundreds of documents, if not more, were likely torn up, those familiar with the practice say,” according to the newspaper.
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> **“One senior Trump White House official said he and other White House staffers frequently put documents into ‘burn bags’ to be destroyed, rather than preserving them, and would decide themselves what should be saved and what should be burned,”** the Post reported. “When the Jan. 6 committee asked for certain documents related to Trump’s efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence, for example, **some of them no longer existed in this person’s files because they had already been shredded** , said someone familiar with the request.”

> **[TFG's destruction of Presidential Records should bar him from holding office...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/2/6/2078931/-TFG-s-destruction-of-Presidential-Records-should-bar-him-from-holding-office-ever-again?utm_campaign=trending)**
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> We now have new reports that not only did Trump illegally tear up many of the documents that came across his desk, he also created “burn bags” where official documents could be completely obliterated and destroyed. Former president Donald Trump tore...

To quote from the article

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> Tearing up documents that can be pieced back together is one thing, completely destroying them is something else altogether.

Which goes on to cite US law

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> 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
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> (a)
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> Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, **shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.**
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> Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, **shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United State** s. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/36 "2022-02-07T18:11:30Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I’m at “I’m never voting for a Republican again”, even if they’re the only ones on the ballot.

I said as much to Martha McSally in my final message to her a couple days before she was voted out of office. Never got a reply, not too surprising – she was busy packing.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/37 "2022-02-07T18:16:51Z")

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Q: Is this the right thread to comment on the 18-wheeler terrorist attack going on in Ottawa right now? Because it seems like a lot of the same 01/06 Insurrectionists are behind both attacks.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/38 "2022-02-07T18:28:26Z")

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I was under the possibly mistaken impression that most of the members of the trucker convoy were right-wing Canadians inspired by 1/6? Or are a large proportion of them Americans?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/39 "2022-02-07T18:56:25Z")

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> Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, **shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United State** s

That last bit could be very interesting regarding Trump. I guess the question is how “unlawfully” is defined. Unfortunately may be one of those things like “classified” where its whatever the president says it is.

ETA: Yeah, unfortunately it looks like I was right 🙁

From this [link](https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-rules-apply-government-records-during-presidential-transition) on the presidential records act (PRA):

> Instead, the president is responsible for interpreting whether the PRA applies to specific records, which implicates public and congressional access to those records. And unlike the FRA, the PRA grants the president exclusive responsibility for custody of, control of and access to presidential records during his or her presidency. The National Archives has a more active role under the FRA in developing document preservation policies alongside federal agencies.
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> The PRA, in comparison, provides even fewer safeguards against the destruction of records. The law leaves it to the president to “take all such steps as may be necessary” to ensure that presidential records are maintained and preserved. It also grants the president discretion to dispose of records that “no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value.” While a president must ask the advice of the archivist before destroying records, he or she is free to disregard that advice.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/40 "2022-02-07T19:01:41Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Seriously, regarding Black and Gay, and Female(?), Republicans - it is a bit patronizing to think that membership in one of those classes conveys some sort of cognitive superpower that makes them immune to the GOP messaging.

_Something_ must be making them immune to it, considering that GOP messaging largely consists of: _If you’re not a Straight White Christian Male, you ain’t shit._

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