# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 318
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6346 "2022-12-19T23:29:38Z")
If the Left is anything, it’s scared of an openly gay Latino with immigrant parents. Yup, that’s us. Remind me, which side spent 4 years pretending to build a wall to keep people from Latin America out? Which politicians have been actively and loudly anti-LGBT? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6347 "2022-12-20T02:02:10Z")
> [@MonkeysBrother](#): > > nd yet, Joseph Murray Esq. doesn’t actually deny any of the Times’ allegations… Yep. Complete and total con artist an liar. An ideal Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6348 "2022-12-20T02:07:49Z")
Well you’ve gotta believe old Joe Murray, who graduated from the 133rd best law school in the country… (CUNY). And he did have the luck to represent noted rapper “Boi Bean”. No I am not making this up. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6349 "2022-12-20T02:42:57Z")
And does anyone have a source on that Churchill “quote”? It sounds less like the words of one of the greatest Prime Ministers in British history than those of an '80s action movie hero. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6350 "2022-12-20T02:46:11Z")
[This](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/04/facebook-posts/quote-attributed-churchill-having-enemies-original/) says Victor Hugo, more or less. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6351 "2022-12-20T02:49:46Z")
So it’s misattributed AND it’s a paraphrase. I expected no less from what stands for source-checking on the right. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6352 "2022-12-20T02:59:09Z")
Using a bullshit, made up quote to try to distract from the bullshit that your client is peddling. Sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6353 "2022-12-20T02:59:51Z")
He’s planning on running for Queens County District Attorney, and is making pejorative comments about the current DA, whom he ran against in 2019. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6354 "2022-12-20T03:37:57Z")
I’m pretty sure he graduated from the Eric Stratton School of Law: “Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is whether or not my client bounced a few checks, failed to pay his rent, misrepresented his resume several times or pocketed charity money. He did.” _wink_ “But you can’t hold a political party responsible for the behavior of some amoral sociopaths who happen to comprise a small percentage – in the 95% range – of the party’s membership. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole political party system? And if the whole party system is guilty, isn’t this an indictment of our entire political process? I put it to you, Nancy: isn’t this an indictment of our entire form of government?? Now, you can do what you want to us. But we won’t sit here, and listen to you bad-mouth **the United States of America!!** Gentlemen!!” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6355 "2022-12-20T04:18:43Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > “Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is whether or not my client bounced a few checks, failed to pay his rent, misrepresented his resume several times or pocketed charity money. He did.” _wink_ “But you can’t hold a political party responsible for the behavior of some amoral sociopaths who happen to comprise a small percentage – in the 95% range – of the party’s membership. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole political party system? And if the whole party system is guilty, isn’t this an indictment of our entire political process? I put it to you, Nancy: isn’t this an indictment of our entire form of government?? Now, you can do what you want to us. But we won’t sit here, and listen to you bad-mouth **the United States of America!!** Gentlemen!!” “Good day to you! I said, good day!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6356 "2022-12-20T05:32:10Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > I’m pretty sure he graduated from the Eric Stratton School of Law: I thought it was the School of Medicine. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6357 "2022-12-20T05:36:22Z")
What’s the difference? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6358 "2022-12-20T14:21:49Z")
Speling. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6359 "2022-12-20T15:07:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > into one of those religions. Really! I somehow expected better from you. I grew up in “one of those religions”. We still follow “one of those religions”. > [@Smapti](#): > > …religious symbol called a vajra. Vajra shares the same Proto-Indo-European root as Vasara (meaning hammer in Finnish) **Ukon-Vasara** , is the symbol and magical weapon of the [Finnish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland) thunder god [Ukko](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukko), It is just like [Thor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor)’s [Mjölnir] weapon is the hammer ([Mjölnir - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mj%C3%B6lnir)). They are all hammers in different languages. So it is okay for celebrating Thor’s stories where the hammer plays a big part, but a Vajra wielding character becomes - “one of those religions.” ? Cite : According to [Asko Parpola](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asko_Parpola), the Sanskrit _vajra-_ (वज्र-) and [Avestan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avestan) _vazra-_ both refer to a weapon of the Godhead, and are possibly from the [Proto-Indo-European](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language) root \*_weg’-_ which means “to be(come) powerful”. It is related to Proto-[Finno](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Finnic_language)-[Uralic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Uralic_language) \*_vaśara_ , “hammer, axe”, (whence _[Ukonvasara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukonvasara)_ , “[Ukko](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukko)’s hammer”) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6360 "2022-12-20T16:49:12Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > Vajra shares the same Proto-Indo-European root as Vasara (meaning hammer in Finnish) The Vajra isn’t a hammer. It’s a stylized lightning bolt. It actually closely resembles the _Keraunos_, the lightning bolt used by Zeus (usually represented as a double-ended short trident. The Vjra just sort of “fleshes it ouit” in three dimensions). In statues, they leave off the two outer prongs on each side, so it looks more like a spindle or weaver’s shuttle. The Keraunos was carried by the Roman empire (who equated Zeus with Jove/Jupiter) over the entire Roman world. At the same time the _Vajra_ was carried over central; Asia by Hinduism, but was adopted as part of Buddhist symbolism, as well, which spread it over much of Asia. So the Keraunos/Vajra became the religious symbol of the lightning bolt from the Iberian peninsula to Japan. (Those depictions of zigzag lightning bolts in the ancient world and in Roman art are simply wrong. That zigzag is a relatively modern invention, only a couple of hundred years old.) ( I wrote an article about this in **Parabola** magazine, ages ago.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6361 "2022-12-20T17:24:15Z")
Damn, I love this board… ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6362 "2022-12-20T18:48:28Z")
Oh, yeah. Any time @CalMeacham posts about mythology qnd related issues, you’re in for a treat. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6363 "2022-12-20T19:35:00Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > Really! I somehow expected better from you. I grew up in “one of those religions”. We still follow “one of those religions”. I thine that the “one of those Religions” comment was pretty clearly meant sarcastically, and rather than represting his own views was an indication his derision of Republican’s bigoted viewpoint that clumps all non-JudeoChristian religions as “other”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6364 "2022-12-20T19:36:20Z")
Especially when it’s about mythological death rays. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6365 "2022-12-20T19:48:30Z")
So Marge Greene and Lauren Boebert are feuding. I don’t have enough popcorn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=319)