# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8507 "2023-03-12T19:35:31Z")

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I wish I could find the exact quote that pops up from time to time, but it was something along the lines of "Instead of trying to explain to your kid that he chose to be gay, demonstrate it for them. Be gay for a month, go on a few same-sex dates, kiss some same-sex people, and then a month later, go back to being straight. Show him how easy it is to choose whether or not you’re gay’.

I’m sure I butchered it, but I’d like to stop googling ‘being gay is a choice’. I’m sure Amazon and youtube will have curated some interesting things for me.

Having said that, while looking for the quote, I did find one that said “Even if being gay is a choice…so what?” and, honestly, I think that’s probably one of the better replies.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8508 "2023-03-13T01:30:06Z")

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I have a co-worker who’s ex-trans. Over the course of about five years, she went from being a she to a he, went on HRT, wore a binder, had her name legally changed, grew a beard, then went off the hormones, got rid of the binder, and lost the facial hair and eventually changed her name back. I haven’t asked her why she decided to detrans since I figure it’s none of my business, but she was happy as a man and she’s happy as a woman now as well, and she certainly doesn’t seem to regret anything about it.

I know this is purely anecdotal, but it’s a far cry from the horror stories righties tell where a kid gets caught playing with the wrong kind of toys and they immediately get shipped to the gender factory to have their bits chopped off and they spend the rest of their life bitter and hateful about it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8509 "2023-03-13T04:09:16Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Having said that, while looking for the quote, I did find one that said “Even if being gay is a choice…so what?” and, honestly, I think that’s probably one of the better replies.

Well, for some people, it _is_ a “choice”, and if Dr. Kinsey is to be believed it could be a choice for fully two-thirds of us. So it is not a matter of chosing what kind of person you bond with but which person you bond with. _That_ is wherein you ultimately have no choice. It happens, not a whole lot you can do about it.

What is really troubling is that these White-Wingers seem to yearn for maximum homogenaity. They want us to all be cookie cutter. Eradicate the hippies and the [redacted] and the [redacted] and everyone else who is not how they think people should be (just read the horrific chapter 22 of _The Turner Diaries_). What a sad, pathetic place it would be, their Uniformitopia. It would be the literal death of humanity.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8510 "2023-03-13T07:39:14Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I wish I could find the exact quote that pops up from time to time, but it was something along the lines of "Instead of trying to explain to your kid that he chose to be gay, demonstrate it for them.

For some time now Dan Savage has had a standing offer for conservative politicians who say that gay is a choice. If one sucks his dick he will give a $10,000 donation to his favorite charity. No one has taken him up on it.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8511 "2023-03-13T12:11:19Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Well, for some people, it _is_ a “choice”, and if Dr. Kinsey is to be believed it could be a choice for fully two-thirds of us. So it is not a matter of chosing what kind of person you bond with but which person you bond with. _That_ is wherein you ultimately have no choice. It happens, not a whole lot you can do about it.

I actually wrote a whole paragraph explaining that this whole line of thinking excludes a huge middle ground of people that aren’t 100% gay or 100% straight that CAN choose. But it’s more nuanced than that as that choice isn’t the same as the ‘being gay is a choice’ choice. I wasn’t sure it was worth getting into since I don’t think the ‘being gay is a choice’ supporters are going to understand the difference between whether or not your sexual preferences (and where on that spectrum you land) is a choice vs whether or not your sexual partner is a choice.

> [@DesertDog](#):
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> If one sucks his dick he will give a $10,000 donation to his favorite charity. No one has taken him up on it.

I wonder if he’d get different results if he offered the 10k to the person instead of a charity. Though I’m not sure it would really prove anything since I think a lot of people would do that for what, to most, would be a considerable amount of money.

Also, logically, even without the money, I don’t think it really holds up since a male giving another male a blowjob doesn’t necessarily mean either of them are gay. But, I’m not sure the ‘gay is a choice’ people are going to see that distinction.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8512 "2023-03-13T13:11:05Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I actually wrote a whole paragraph explaining that this whole line of thinking excludes a huge middle ground of people that aren’t 100% gay or 100% straight that CAN choose. But it’s more nuanced than that as that choice isn’t the same as the ‘being gay is a choice’ choice. I wasn’t sure it was worth getting into since I don’t think the ‘being gay is a choice’ supporters are going to understand the difference between whether or not your sexual preferences (and where on that spectrum you land) is a choice vs whether or not your sexual partner is a choice.

Who you sleep with is a choice. Who you _want_ to sleep with isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8513 "2023-03-13T14:27:28Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> If _ **some** _ persons who transition later “decide for whatever reason it isn’t for them” then _how can you be **100% sure** _ ANYONE who at some point identifies as trans should be aided in affirming and transitioning.

The really funny part of all this is “de-transitioning” _is also_ “gender affirming care”, which they’re effectively trying to ban.

Typical self-inflicted wound by people who fundamentally don’t understand the things they’re trying to control.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8514 "2023-03-13T14:45:42Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Typical self-inflicted wound by people who fundamentally don’t understand the things they’re trying to control.

That presumes they care about detransitioning. Hurting trans people - even trans people who want to detransition - is not just a feature, it’s the entire goal.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8515 "2023-03-13T15:16:29Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Who you sleep with is a choice. Who you _want_ to sleep with isn’t.

Yeah, but try to explain that to someone that thinks you’re going to go to hell if you’re anything but 100% straight both in who you sleep with and who you want to sleep with.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8516 "2023-03-13T16:10:11Z")

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Those people must be so terrified of their own private thoughts. I don’t feel sorry for them, because of the pain they inflict on others, but if they would just… lighten up, Francis! Then they might not feel so bad about themselves, and might allow others to live their lives in peace.

A girl can dream, anyway.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8517 "2023-03-13T16:25:09Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I wonder if he’d get different results if he offered the 10k to the person instead of a charity.

Or their campaign fund.\* I’ve had the same thought but then, I’m cynical when it comes to politicians.

\*When **DesertWife** and I were married, for the reception invites we put, _We want presence, not presents. If you feel you must ‘do something’ make a contribution in our name to your favorite charity._ As we were quite active in he Libertarian party one of our friends teased us by saying he was going to contribute to the Democratic party. I said, “If you figure the Democrats are a charity case, then go ahead.”

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8518 "2023-03-13T17:00:51Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I wonder if he’d get different results if he offered the 10k to the person instead of a charity.

“Give me a blow job and I’ll give you $10,000.”

I think there might be some legal issues with an offer like that.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8519 "2023-03-13T18:21:54Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I think there might be some legal issues with an offer like that.

Not if we film it and get a signed release from “the actors”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8520 "2023-03-13T18:53:20Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Who you sleep with is a choice. Who you _want_ to sleep with isn’t.

I remember dogma about “sinning in your heart”. Some sects go beyond mere illicit schtupping but just thinking about illicit schtupping is immoral, sinful and wrong. It is right there in Exodus 20 – several of the sins there are about things in your head (me-God!, honor your parents, fail to covet), so jehovallah is all big brothery.  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think the catholic church and maybe a few others were saying that they will accept homosexuals as long as they do not go out and get them some homosex.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8521 "2023-03-14T01:22:50Z")

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21 South Carolina Republicans voted to give the death penalty to women who receive abortions.

> **[21 South Carolina Republican lawmakers support death penalty for women who...](https://www.rawstory.com/south-carolina/)**
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> Republicans are taking the next step in their war on women. The latest proposal in South Carolina was to give the death penalty to women who have abortions. It didn't pass, but there were 21 Republicans who supported it. Writing about the vote,...

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8522 "2023-03-14T02:06:02Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I wasn’t sure it was worth getting into since I don’t think the ‘being gay is a choice’ supporters are going to understand the difference between whether or not your sexual preferences (and where on that spectrum you land) is a choice vs whether or not your sexual partner is a choice.

See, for instance, all of the homophobic idiots who think that being bi means that you need a partner of each sex.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8523 "2023-03-15T01:50:36Z")

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Here’s one for the “Everything I don’t like is ‘woke’” file;

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1635745320444342279>

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8524 "2023-03-15T02:10:25Z")

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Yes…Faced with the choice of

(1) The banks failed because regulations that would have required them to be more careful and have more oversight were repealed in 2018.

AND

(2) the banks failed because they were too “woke”.

apparently Republicans are overwhelmingly choosing (2).

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8525 "2023-03-15T02:48:15Z")

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Stupid Is as Stupid are Told…

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/8526 "2023-03-15T05:43:29Z")

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George Santos needs to ask a cashier to unlock the drink cooler at the bodega because WOKE.

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/Santos4Congress/status/1635798003515817984>

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