# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 451
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9007 "2023-04-10T07:38:17Z")
So, another side to his position is ‘No pregnancy, so no evidence of a crime, and thus the abuse can continue’? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9008 "2023-04-10T07:59:50Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > My brain locked up reading that. So, I’ll just post this definition that sprang to mind: > > [Fractal wrongness - RationalWiki](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness) Wow, what an incredibly useful concept! So many applications in today’s world! Sadly. Question: would this be the same as _holographic wrongness_? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9009 "2023-04-10T10:47:23Z")
Wow. He said that? One would think the prime directive would be to get the girl help, not be put through legal matters shes emotionally unequipped for; trial, et. A daughter of my friend is pregnant. When I asked about the dad, her mom told me she’d been raped. Shes 26. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9010 "2023-04-10T10:52:58Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Wow. He said that? [He’s had a lot to say about consent and age.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9PfeI3XIQ8) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9011 "2023-04-10T12:22:57Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > So, another side to his position is ‘No pregnancy, so no evidence of a crime, and thus the abuse can continue’? Can DNA be extracted from aborted embryo/fetus? I would have thought it could be, but I don’t recall hearing about it. Or at least if I have, it’s not often enough that it automatically comes to mind. If it can be, it seems to me it would be worth considering requiring a DNA sample any time the medical staff suspects rape and possibly in any/all cases involving the pregnancy of a minor. I can think of some other downsides to that, but I’m not sure if they’d outweigh the advantges. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9012 "2023-04-10T12:34:09Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > If it can be, it seems to me it would be worth considering requiring a DNA sample any time the medical staff suspects rape and possibly in any/all cases involving the pregnancy of a minor. > I can think of some other downsides to that, but I’m not sure if they’d outweigh the advantges. I can imagine a situation where a husband orders a DNA check done to prove infidelity. but that’s a different situation. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9013 "2023-04-10T12:38:59Z")
I don’t have a lot of time this morning, but something I think is worth mentioning…. As part of my continual interest in cults, I was recently reviewing some fundamentalist religion homeschooling materials, produced by a group called ATI. They provide materials to not just fundamentalist Baptists, but those of other denominations as well, including Amish. I was shocked by some of the things they don’t believe in, like democracy and saving for retirement ( they actually don’t believe in retirement, period- they believe God wants you to be a productive worker until you drop dead, and retirement encourages laziness). But they have a lesson plan on why democracy is bad, the entire formatting is whack, but look at page 55 of this pdf— it’s page 2691 using the page numbers in the book > **[wisdom-booklet-49-p2643-2710.pdf](https://homeschoolersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/wisdom-booklet-49-p2643-2710.pdf)** > > 26.81 MB ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9014 "2023-04-10T14:08:10Z")
From the Wisdom Booklet, under a picture of some columns: > The governments of ancient Greece and Rome > were based on the sovereignty of the majority. The > ruins of these civilizations stand today as silent > witnesses to the destructive way of a pure democracy. If they’re going to base the effectiveness of government on archaeology, then 2-3 thousand years ain’t bad. The only theocracy-based structures still standing I can think of are in Vatican City, but I don’t think the fundies consider Catholicism a model. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9015 "2023-04-10T15:15:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > These guys have no idea what they’re parroting. But that particular parrot-vocalization (‘democracy is bad!’) is becoming more and more openly embraced by the right. “It’s a Republic, not a democracy” is a longstanding referent for this crowd, but yeah, they probably don’t understand what the oh-so revered Founders meant. Just that they preferred the former. To the Founders “democracy” meant unmediated majority rule which of course that bunch of White Christian Educated Landowners saw as too risky. They got into their heads that they were to be spiritual heirs of the Roman Republic where there was Rule of Law and Rights of Citizens… as long as it was The Right People who were in charge. This position continues to hold among many. Of course as @Ann_Hedonia points out, the fundies go even **further** than that, but that one is easier to explain. After all, think about it, _their_ aspiration is to live for eternity as happy serfs of the **ultimate** Absolute Monarch. Earthly governments get their legitimacy from Divine Mandate not from a consensus. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9016 "2023-04-10T15:34:46Z")
There are a lot more ancient ruins of, well, pretty much every form of government other than democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9017 "2023-04-10T15:52:03Z")
Also, at least in Athens, the magnificent buildings were **built** under democracy, but **ruined** under authoritarian regimes. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9018 "2023-04-10T16:18:31Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > So, another side to his position is ‘No pregnancy, so no evidence of a crime, and thus the abuse can continue’? And if it’s a “legitimate rape”, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. That Og sure does work in mysterious ways. ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9019 "2023-04-10T19:12:01Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Can DNA be extracted from aborted embryo/fetus? I would have thought it could be, but I don’t recall hearing about it. Absolutely it can, as long as the tissue is collected into the proper medium. Our lab sends fetal tissue for chromosome analysis not infrequently on spontaneous abortions; there’s no reason it couldn’t be done on elective terminations. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9020 "2023-04-10T21:11:18Z")
Not sure if it’s more evil or stupid, but [Iowa is considering a bill that would bar anyone under 18 from having a social media account](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/30/kids-cant-use-social-media-like-instagram-tiktok-under-iowa-gop-bill/70063747007/). It may just be that a parent’s permission will be needed, but that’s still dumb. Utah [already has such a law](https://apnews.com/article/social-media-utah-kids-84bd1f6481071726327bce25cf3e7522). I dislike kids always having their noses in their phones as much as anyone (and I’m a huge hypocrite for it), but this is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9021 "2023-04-10T21:31:12Z")
North Dakota legislature votes against providing free lunch to schoolchildren, then votes to increase their own daily meal allowance. > **[North Dakota Senate Rejects Free School Lunches Then Votes to Increase Its...](https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9p78/north-dakota-senate-rejects-free-school-lunches-then-votes-to-increases-its-own-meal-budgets)** > > "Yes I can understand kids going hungry, but is that really the problem of the school district, is that the problem of the state of North Dakota?" ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9022 "2023-04-10T21:37:32Z")
“It was sponsored by 3 Republicans and 1 Democrat in the Republican-controlled body.” Really, lone Democrat? Why not let them sink themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9023 "2023-04-11T05:11:06Z")
[China has a law limiting online gaming](https://apnews.com/article/gaming-business-children-00db669defcc8e0ca1fc2dc54120a0b8#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20authorities%20restricted%20minors,Fridays%2C%20weekends%20and%20public%20holidays.). Care to guess how well it’s working? I’m teacing at a high school in Beijing and it’s a nearly constant fight to get the students to stop playing games on their damn devices during class. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9024 "2023-04-11T14:37:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Care to guess how well it’s working? Well, once China starts public executions of gamers, they should see a reduction. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9025 "2023-04-11T14:54:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Matt Walsh says it’s a good thing when 12-year-olds are forced to bear their incestuous molestor’s child, because getting an abortion would “destroy the evidence”. > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtTsKKuXwAAKq5g?format=jpg&name=medium](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtTsKKuXwAAKq5g?format=jpg&name=medium) He has six children – perhaps they should be checked for signs of molestation. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9026 "2023-04-11T15:20:57Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He has six children – perhaps they should be checked for signs of molestation. Check their ages. Any chance the youngest “sister” is actually the daughter of the oldest? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=450) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=452)