# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/902 "2022-03-17T14:03:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Matt Shea, the former WA state legislator and terrorist who you may remember for his manifesto calling for the execution of all non-Christian males, has traveled to Poland and “obtained” 62 Ukrainian children… Does he own a pizza restaurant? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/903 "2022-03-17T14:15:13Z")
Should’ve come here first…I posted about this over in the Bundy pit thread (Shea is very much Bundy-adjacent). Apparently he is calling them his “prospective daughters”. CREEPY!!! > **[Former state Rep. Matt Shea takes part in rescue of 62 orphans from Ukrainian...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/mar/16/ukrainian-orphans-rescued-by-matt-shea-raise-conce/)** > > As bombs fell in Mariupol, an eastern Ukrainian city ravaged by fighting between Russian and Ukrainian forces, Spokane pastor and former legislator Matt Shea launched a rescue mission for 62 orphans. In a video and post to Facebook on March 8,... ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/904 "2022-03-17T14:16:09Z")
Not that I know of, but I’m guessing his church has a basement. 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/905 "2022-03-17T14:22:20Z")
Yeah, but how’s their pizza? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/906 "2022-03-17T14:30:07Z")
Juicy. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/907 "2022-03-17T15:13:02Z")
Gov. Kristi Noem of South Dakota wants her fireworks display, natives and wildfires be damned! > **[Feds again deny Gov. Kristi Noem's Mount Rushmore fireworks plan, citing...](https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/news/south-dakota/feds-again-deny-gov-kristi-noems-mount-rushmore-fireworks-plan-citing-citing-tribal-opposition-wildfires)** > > Nearly a year after what federal authorities called the "largest recorded fire" at the Mount Rushmore National Memorial, the National Parks Service rejected the Republican governor's request to stage a pyrotechnic event at the iconic mountain... > “Many of the reasons presented for their denial have been previously addressed, indicating that these reasons are not in good faith,” said Noem, who has led the charge to return fireworks to the monument. > Last year, a [federal judge in Pierre](https://www.inforum.com/news/no-fireworks-at-mount-rushmore-says-federal-judge-in-dismissing-kristi-noem-lawsuit) rejected Noem’s arguments, calling them a “short-term” win for tourism while damaging the “long-term interests” for the state, including its relationships with local tribes. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/908 "2022-03-17T17:06:31Z")
Hmmmm………these smells like another one of Jeffrey Clark’s insurrection schemes in what he refers to as the Civil Cold War. Here’s Clark’s article on the subject. > **[How States Could Constitutionally Assume Abandoned Responsibilities of the...](https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/10/how-states-could-constitutionally-assume-abandoned-responsibilities-of-the-national-government/)** > > The COVID pandemic has witnessed the exercise of state “police powers” on a scale and scope unprecedented in America’s peacetime history. Out of fear of contagion, massive amounts of private property… Or, for those that don’t want to contaminate their fingers by clicking a link to American Greatness, here’s an article about the article. It also explains the scheme. > **[The Seditionist’s Cookbook](https://www.thebulwark.com/the-seditionists-cookbook/)** > > Is violence an essential element of the populist right’s political agenda? To claim otherwise has become increasingly difficult. A manifesto co-authored by John Eastman—the Trump lawyer who was forced to resign as dean of Chapman University Law... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/909 "2022-03-17T18:10:16Z")
John Eastman also wrote the racist editorial in Newsweek where he claimed that Kamala Harris isn’t eligible to be Vice President, because her parents were born in foreign countries, so that means she isn’t a US citizen ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/910 "2022-03-17T18:19:39Z")
There is something wrong with our society that this guy, and others like him, are still walking around un-incarcerated. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/911 "2022-03-17T18:37:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > John Eastman also wrote the racist editorial in Newsweek where he claimed that Kamala Harris isn’t eligible to be Vice President, because her parents were born in foreign countries, so that means she isn’t a US citizen By that “logic”, AFAICT there is no current or past President or Vice President who was eligible for the job. Because all of them were ultimately descended from ancestors who were born in foreign countries, meaning that the US-born children of those foreign-born ancestors (e.g., Donald Trump’s father Fred Trump, who was actually conceived in Germany though born in the US of German-born parents) don’t count as US citizens, meaning that the US-born children of those “non-citizen” children don’t count as US citizens, and so on. Either birthright citizenship, irrespective of parental citizenship, is a valid citizenship criterion or it is not. And if it is, then there’s no logically defensible justification for arguing that it’s valid for, say, the parents or grandparents or remote ancestors of Presidential candidates but not for Presidential candidates themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/912 "2022-03-17T18:44:12Z")
First sentence of the 14th amendment: _All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._ I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/913 "2022-03-17T18:47:09Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > First sentence of the 14th amendment: > > _All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._ > > **I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand.** - It is when you _try_ to not understand. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/914 "2022-03-17T18:49:01Z")
The only argument I’ve read that hangs together at all (and that only barely) is that the amendment was referring to people alive at the time of ratification. Of course, it has never been read that way, but it is a possible reading at least. You’d think they’d have been a bit clearer on that if that was the intent, but it’s not like the 2nd amendment is a marvel of clarity. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/915 "2022-03-17T19:44:56Z")
ISTR whole threads on this board debating the meaning of the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” with some maintaining that undocumented foreign citizens (and their kids) are not subject to US jurisdiction and therefore the kids are not citizens. Utter bullshit if you ask me, but that’s the thread some on the right seem to cling to. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/916 "2022-03-17T20:17:15Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > First sentence of the 14th amendment: > > _All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._ > > I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. To a Republican, what the constitution says is to be ignored once it conflicts with that Republican’s racism. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/917 "2022-03-17T20:28:31Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > First sentence of the 14th amendment: > > _All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._ Republican constitutions have this written at the end in sharpie: _“… unless they are Democrats”_ ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/918 "2022-03-17T20:50:24Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > ISTR whole threads on this board debating the meaning of the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” with some maintaining that undocumented foreign citizens (and their kids) are not subject to US jurisdiction and therefore the kids are not citizens. By that logic, children of foreign nationals who are born in the United States may commit any act that to the Republican definition of ‘citizen’ would be illegal – theft, fraud, murder, etc. – and suffer no consequences because they are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/919 "2022-03-17T21:18:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > By that logic … You’re giving the idea far too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/920 "2022-03-17T23:08:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Being Canadian, I’ll need that in hours. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TnwqUEelQjE/maxresdefault.jpg "Boston - Foreplay / Long Time (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnwqUEelQjE) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/921 "2022-03-18T02:00:21Z")
> **[Here are the 8 House Republicans who voted against suspending normal trade...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/8-house-republicans-voted-against-205346735.html)** > > The bill passed 424-8 and allows President Biden to increase tariffs on products coming from the two countries amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. **Here are the eight Republicans who voted against the bill on Thursday:** - Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia - Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida - Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado - Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky - Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona - Rep. Dan Bishop of North Carolina - Rep. Glenn Grothman of Wisconsin - Rep. Chip Roy of Texas I’m sure no one is surprised at these Haters of Freedom and America. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=47)