# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 466
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9307 "2023-05-01T17:19:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Over the weekend, a family of five in Texas, including an 8-year-old, were gunned down in their own home by their neighbor who is now on the run. > > Greg Abbott’s response has been to (falsely) call them “illegal immigrants”. - > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1652783731290013696) Which state will he ship the bodies to? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9308 "2023-05-01T17:35:59Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > There are a few books, such as Sirach, Maccabes, and parts of Daniel, that the Catholics accept, but not most Protestants. Responding to an old post, but, I gotta ask, of all the books to reject, why Maccabes? While it’s certainly a religious book, it’s also a fairly straightforward account of historical events that are well attested by other sources. It seems like the easiest book for a non-Jew to accept. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9309 "2023-05-01T17:58:50Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Responding to an old post, but, I gotta ask, of all the books to reject, why Maccabes? Because there’s no way a Trump-fearin’ 'Murrican Protestant is going to worship [some Australian burger joint!](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maccas) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9310 "2023-05-01T19:06:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And for that matter, the Old Testament of the Christian Bible is only mostly congruent with the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. There are a few books, such as Sirach, Maccabes, and parts of Daniel, that the Catholics accept, but not most Protestants. Look up what the OT Canon of the Ethiopian Orthodox (Tewahedo) Church looks like. That’s some _serious_ completists. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9311 "2023-05-01T22:24:34Z")
The Heritage Foundation wants DHS to deport Prince Harry because… reasons? > **[Right-wing think tank files lawsuit demanding Prince Harry’s immigration records](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/prince-harry-immigration-records-lawsuit-b2330385.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1682965677)** > > The Heritage Foundation is demanding Harry’s confidential immigration records, which they argue may show he lied about drug use when he obtained a visa to enter the US ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9312 "2023-05-02T00:38:30Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The Heritage Foundation wants DHS to deport Prince Harry because… reasons? I guess they could thereby “prove” that they aren’t racist against people of non-European heritage–they treat European people just as badly as anyone else. (‘See! We stuck it to Prince Harry, an actual white guy, no matter who he married!!!’) Of course there are bound to be people of Ginger heritage who cry foul, but… ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9313 "2023-05-02T03:28:00Z")
Well, they’ll be looking into Melania Trump and her parents got in any day now! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9314 "2023-05-02T03:55:51Z")
And they’ll be whining about her anchor baby, too! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9315 "2023-05-02T05:18:12Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Responding to an old post, but, I gotta ask, of all the books to reject, why Maccabes? While it’s certainly a religious book, it’s also a fairly straightforward account of historical events that are well attested by other sources. It seems like the easiest book for a non-Jew to accept. The Jews don’t accept it either, even though it makes us look pretty good. I suppose the reasons are either theological or more likely, political. Or maybe it’s just too new. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9316 "2023-05-02T11:08:28Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > of all the books to reject, why Maccabes? While it’s certainly a religious book, it’s also a fairly straightforward account of historical events that are well attested by other sources. > [@Alessan](#): > > I suppose the reasons are either theological or more likely, political. It’s possible that the ‘well attested by other sources’ makes the other books like bad? Also, as a young Catholic I learned somewhere (priest? a magazine or book?) that the Catholic practice of praying for the dead (one of the things many non-Catholics normally look askance at?) is supported there (and hence the concept of Purgatory). Not that the Church has historically leaned all that hard on the Bible for teachings, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9317 "2023-05-02T11:34:24Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > It’s possible that the ‘well attested by other sources’ makes the other books like bad? Nah. I mean, it’s set centuries after even the latest portions of the bible, and nothing in it retroactively contradicts anything there, to the best of my knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9318 "2023-05-02T11:43:03Z")
What I meant was it is provably accurate at some level, unlike Genesis, Exodus and (I’m guessing here) a lot of stuff up through Kings at least. Which is potentially uncomfortable for Biblical literalists. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9319 "2023-05-02T11:47:39Z")
You’re thinking like a modern intellectual. Back in the Classical Era, proving things with evidence wasn’t part of the academic method. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9320 "2023-05-02T13:59:15Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You’re thinking like a modern intellectual. Back in the Classical Era, proving things with evidence wasn’t part of the academic method True, and I suppose that that kind of thinking probably didn’t have much to do with what books ended up considered “canon” in various faiths. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9321 "2023-05-02T21:23:57Z")
> Watch the reaction of the woman behind him as he lowers the boom. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9322 "2023-05-02T22:13:27Z")
Hey, we’re marginally better than ISIS and the Taliban, we just want to legally oppress gay people instead of tossing them off buildings. So quit calling us bigots! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9323 "2023-05-02T23:06:13Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Responding to an old post, but, I gotta ask, of all the books to reject, why Maccabes? While it’s certainly a religious book, it’s also a fairly straightforward account of historical events that are well attested by other sources. It seems like the easiest book for a non-Jew to accept. As I understand it, it’s a matter of the provenance, not of the content. Most Protestant bibles are based on a particular collection of old scrolls that (for whatever reason) didn’t include those, while the compilers of the Catholic canon looked to a wider variety of sources. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9324 "2023-05-02T23:30:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Watch the reaction of the woman behind him as he lowers the boom. That’s priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9325 "2023-05-02T23:56:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The Jews don’t accept it either, even though it makes us look pretty good. You know, until you said this, I was assuming that “Book of Maccabes” was just what English speakers called the Megila for Hanukkah, which while certainly not part of the Tanach is still used by many Jewish communities; but reading up on it showed me that these are two distinct things. Learn something new every day! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9326 "2023-05-03T05:53:03Z")
I thought that was that one Altman film, _Maccabes & Mrs Miller_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=465) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018.md?page=467)