# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018 "2022-02-07T00:52:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9507 "2023-05-19T23:20:10Z")

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Rhode Island is small enough that maybe they could just do a head count.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9508 "2023-05-19T23:20:58Z")

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Brilliant strategy – somebody finally noticed that “Generic Republican” runs well ahead of any actual member of the party with a record and everything.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9509 "2023-05-19T23:43:59Z")

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Earlier this week, right-wing media ran with a story about dozens of needy veterans being kicked out of a hotel in upstate New York to make way for undocumented migrants.

Turns out the entire story was made up by an anti-immigrant group and the “veterans” were homeless men who had been paid to play along.

> **[Homeless men recruited for veteran hotel scam - Mid Hudson News](https://midhudsonnews.com/2023/05/19/homeless-men-recruited-for-veteran-hotel-scam/)**
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> POUGHKEEPSIE – Seven homeless men have come forward to say they were part of a group of men recruited at a Poughkeepsie homeless shelter to act as veterans that had been displaced from a Newburgh hotel in order for a non-profit organization to...

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9510 "2023-05-20T00:56:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> were homeless men who had been paid to play along.

FAKE NEWS!

The homeless men were not paid to play along!

They were promised $200 to play along, but it good Trumpian fashion the organizers stiffed them.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9511 "2023-05-20T01:00:20Z")

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Oh the good old days, when Republicans merely lied about things.  
Now they set up skits, pay actors, … wait a minute! Were those actors union?? This can’t stand!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9512 "2023-05-20T01:04:50Z")

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Crisis actors? I thought that a liberal thing?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9513 "2023-05-20T01:11:25Z")

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Every accusation Republicans make is a confession of what they do. A counter example simply means we haven’t caught them yet.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9514 "2023-05-20T12:51:47Z")

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What do you have against plumbers? That Mario fellow seems great!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9515 "2023-05-20T13:11:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> right-wing media ran with a story about dozens of needy veterans being kicked out of a hotel in upstate New York to make way for undocumented migrants.
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> Turns out the entire story was made up

And what are the chances that those right wing media sites retract these claims?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9516 "2023-05-20T13:23:36Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> And what are the chances that those right wing media sites retract these claims?

[Kenobi wave/]What claims? [/Kenobi wave]

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9517 "2023-05-20T13:25:21Z")

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Ted Cruz doin’ some serious governmentin’ –

> **[Ted Cruz Launches Senate Probe Into Bud Light's Ad With Dylan Mulvaney](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-dylan-mulvaney_n_6467400de4b0ab2b97e6a139)**
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> The Texas Republican demanded the beer industry investigate on its own — or have Anheuser-Busch apologize for the alleged Mulvaney infraction.

> Sen. [Ted Cruz](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/ted-cruz) (R-Texas) this week opened a Senate investigation into his allegations that [Anheuser-Busch](https://www.huffpost.com/impact/topic/anheuser-busch) markets [Bud Light](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/bud-light) to underage consumers in its ad featuring transgender influencer [Dylan Mulvaney](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/dylan-mulvaney).  
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> Mulvaney, a 26-year-old actor who chronicled her transition to a wide audience on TikTok, appeared in a [**one-off Instagram post**](https://www.instagram.com/p/CqgTftujqZc/?hl=en) promoting Bud Light for March Madness. She showed off a can with her likeness that the brand made especially for her.  
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My bold.

Gotta nip this sort of thing in the bud… er, _Bud_.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9518 "2023-05-20T15:01:15Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Republican city councilman. ✅  
> Lawyer having sex with clients. ✅  
> Passed out in his car. ✅  
> Crack pipe in his hand-- priceless.
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> [Accused Crack-Smoking Councilman Matthew Reilly’s Woes Deepen](https://www.thedailybeast.com/accused-crack-smoking-councilman-matthew-reillys-woes-deepen)

How much of those thirteen years was just not getting caught?  
After all, if it’s the first time, how did he know how to use a crack pipe and how to obtain crack in the first place?  
And why wasn’t he charged with DUI?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9519 "2023-05-20T21:58:57Z")

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Ten Republican state senators in Oregon are now banned from running for reelection due to excessive absenteeism, caused by their no-showing sessions to try to block passage of abortion and LBGT rights bills.

> **[Bucking new law, 10 Oregon senators disqualified from reelection with boycott](https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2023/05/bucking-new-law-10-oregon-senators-disqualified-from-reelection-with-boycott.html)**
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> The senators, nine Republicans and one Independent, began skipping floor sessions May 3, leaving key bills in limbo.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9520 "2023-05-20T22:53:05Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Turns out the entire story was made up by an anti-immigrant group and the “veterans” were homeless men who had been paid to play along.

I’ve been listening to the yahoos on WABC spouting this for several days. I knew it was BS just because they were saying it, but thanks for the confirmation.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9521 "2023-05-22T08:48:09Z")

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Several civil rights groups have just issued a travel advisory on Florida.

> **[Civil rights groups warn tourists about Florida in wake of 'hostile' laws](https://ground.news/article/civil-rights-groups-warn-tourists-about-florida-in-wake-of-hostile-laws_27f883)**
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> The NAACP over the weekend issued a travel advisory for Florida, joining two other civil rights groups in warning potential tourists that recent laws and policies championed by Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida lawmakers are “openly hostile toward...

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9522 "2023-05-22T09:51:49Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> dozens of needy veterans being kicked out of a hotel in upstate New York to make way for undocumented migrants.
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> Turns out the entire story was made up by an anti-immigrant group and the “veterans” were homeless men who had been paid to play along.

So, stolen valor.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9523 "2023-05-22T10:54:17Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> So, stolen valor

Technically they were paid, so not “stolen” valour.

More like crisis actors, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9524 "2023-05-22T11:12:30Z")

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Didn’t the courts decide “stolen valor” was only a thing if the perpetrator were paid or received something of monetary value?

I like your take, though. 😁

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9525 "2023-05-22T11:58:50Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> More like crisis actors, in my opinion.

That’s funny. I hadn’t thought of it like that. I’m nearly positive at least one right wing nut job got into trouble for accusing people on the left of using crisis actors.

> [@Monty](#):
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> Didn’t the courts decide “stolen valor” was only a thing if the perpetrator were paid or received something of monetary value?

I’m not digging into the law any deeper than this, but wiki says you have to be doing it with the " intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award. "

I’m not even sure we have to worry about whether or not she paid them or if she even offered to since they received food, drink and transportation to the ‘job site’. At the very least, the food and drink, I assume, are considered tangible benefits. In the end, they dressed up like vets in exchange for food and drink.

But something to keep in mind is that we’re not trying to prove the homeless men broke stolen valor laws. The question is what, if any, laws did the person that hired them break? Stolen Valor by proxy?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9526 "2023-05-22T12:33:44Z")

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Military Munchausen by Proxy?

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