# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 113
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2241 "2023-11-22T17:08:16Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@kayaker](#): > > > > We pay a fortune for our turkey, but it’s a humanely raised bird raised locally. > > “This turkey was killed humanely while listening to the smooth jazz sounds of Kenny G.” Even turkeys wish for a quick death when forced to listen to that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2242 "2023-11-22T17:51:29Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > > [@Spoons](#): > > > > Of course, he’s not. He doesn’t control world oil prices any more than I do. But they believe he does. And that’s the sticking point. “Gas is more expensive! It’s Biden’s fault!” > > > > As an aside, why do they think Biden controls world oil prices? Those are set on world markets, under the laws of supply and demand, and Biden can do nothing about them. > > Because they have also been sold the lie that America is not energy-independent and it’s because Biden shut down the oil fields. > > There’s several levels of wrong to this, but I wouldn’t say it’s a crazy conspiracy theory, it’s just a thing that if you haven’t thought about, seems reasonable. i.e. _“Didn’t the Dems stop a pipeline, and couldn’t we choose our own fuel price if we produced all our oil domestically?”_ The problem is that the _we_ in “_couldn’t we choose our own fuel price if we produced all our oil domestically_” is not the _we_ that buys fuel it’s the _we_ that sells fuel. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2243 "2023-11-22T18:11:24Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > The problem is that the _we_ in “_couldn’t we choose our own fuel price if we produced all our oil domestically_” is not the _we_ that buys fuel it’s the _we_ that sells fuel. Right. The thing is, the US _does_ produce enough oil to fulfill domestic demand. But: 1. A lot of US oil is shale, which is not an ideal source for making gasoline, therefore it makes sense for the US to export oil to countries that prefer that density mix, and import light crude 2. Since oil is readily transportable, it makes no sense for oil companies to charge US consumers less than they could abroad (ok, US consumers could get a slight discount for having cheaper transportation costs). It would make as much sense as selling your car for a super low price because everyone on your street is poor and you’ve self limited yourself to selling only to people on your street. In fact it’s _more_ stupid, because America is a _wealthy_ country. But, alas, it’s easier to tell a lie than to explain why it’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2244 "2023-11-22T18:17:33Z")
And of course, the whole thing could be simplified (and cost American consumers less) if we’d just drastically reduce our energy usage. Which we could, without any significant impact on our quality of life. But we don’t, because Reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2245 "2023-11-22T18:27:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > But we don’t, because Reasons. I think it’s because of the constitutional amendment titled “You Can’t Fuckin’ Tell Me What To Do” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2246 "2023-11-22T19:03:07Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > “Didn’t the Dems stop a pipeline, and couldn’t we choose our own fuel price if we produced all our oil domestically?” It’s worth pointing out that, when Canada tried to do this back in the 70s, the Albertans absolutely freaked out at the suggestion that they should maybe give their fellow Canadians a break on oil prices. Said Albertans are still bent out of shape over this, and are also currently in love with Trump and the GOP. Go Figure. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2247 "2023-11-22T19:16:52Z")
my thoughts flashed to that incident. that was some crazy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2248 "2023-11-22T19:32:11Z")
Me, too. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2249 "2023-11-22T19:47:04Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Albertans are … currently in love with Trump and the GOP. > > Go Figure. Alberta is known to be the Texas of Canada. I mean, look, that is where Rafael is from. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2250 "2023-11-22T19:55:57Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Those poor dogs! If they’re out of work how will they support their families? what about other drugs? … are the dogs not allowed to sniff for other drugs? do they have a dog union that ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2251 "2023-11-22T20:02:36Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > do they have a dog union Are you suggesting that these brave police dogs are _Democrats_?!? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2252 "2023-11-22T20:34:31Z")
No, no, police unions are OK. As long as the union supports them when they bite suspects. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2253 "2023-11-22T20:58:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > As long as the union supports them when they bite suspects. Singing, “Bite Through the Union Label!” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2254 "2023-11-22T21:00:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Alberta is known to be the Texas of Canada. I mean, look, that is where Rafael is from. Main difference is Alberta is friendlier to the US. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2255 "2023-11-22T21:25:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And of course, the whole thing could be simplified (and cost American consumers less) if we’d just drastically reduce our energy usage. Which we could, without any significant impact on our quality of life. But we don’t, because Reasons. eyyyy … commie!!! you not takin my F250 powastroke from me - because … ammandmenz!!! ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2256 "2023-11-22T23:01:08Z")
Look, several regular posters here are Albertan, including myself. Most Albertans I know think Trump is a joke. I generally avoid political discussions because in person because it just isn’t productive. From experience I generally assume I am significantly to the left of the typical Canadian, let alone Albertan. But I really don’t find too many Trump supporters, maybe they just keep their mouths shut. The only one I can think of is a former coworker who I don’t see anymore. I hear lots of people make jokes about Trump. I have a good, old friend from university that has gone pretty far right. He is oil patch. He thinks Ezra Levant is a measured intellectual. I assume he voted for Danielle Smith. But he still thinks Donald Trump is a fascist. The NEP seemed like a good idea at the time from certain angles but it was thrust on westerners at a time of already insane interest rates. A lot of people were financially ruined. Middle class people that lost everything. Its not a simple issue. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2257 "2023-11-23T03:09:33Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > what about other drugs? … are the dogs not allowed to sniff for other drugs? do they have a dog union that C’mon, friend. Don’t you know that the dreaded mary jane has a terrible effect on one’s work ethic. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2258 "2023-11-23T03:13:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Googling, after Jason Chafftez got roasted online for the ninety-dollar comment, he tweeted a photo of a turkey he claims he purchased for $114.02. Of course this was a sustainably raised [Diestel](https://diestelturkey.com/) bird for $4.99 per pound and weighing 22.85 pounds and purchased from [Meiers Fine Foods](https://www.meiersmeats.com/) in Highland, Utah. Ironically, it turns out that Chafftez’s turkey costed more during Loser Donald’s term. > ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2259 "2023-11-23T03:19:27Z")
Meanwhile, the lede to a New York Times story reads > U.S. gasoline prices are plunging just in time for Thanksgiving, and with the OPEC Plus oil cartel in apparent disarray, they could be heading lower for Christmas. > > Lower prices at the pump have helped ease the inflation rate most of this year. But this week, they fell to levels not seen at this time of year since 2021, according to the AAA motor club, before the Russian invasion of Ukraine sent energy prices higher. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/2260 "2023-11-23T03:22:36Z")
Eh, “Not seen this low at this time of year since two years ago” isn’t exactly a very strong statement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=112) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=114)