# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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Whereas I figured that the sawdust just got pushed into lines by the edge of a board or something. It wouldn’t have occurred to me that it was deliberately imitating drug lines in order to make an allegorical point.

And it definitely wouldn’t have occurred to me that it was drugs, rather than the powder one normally finds on a table saw.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3822 "2024-02-21T23:33:10Z")

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Maybe Hunter just wanted a Pepsi?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3823 "2024-02-22T00:06:20Z")

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And his mom wouldn’t get him one.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3824 "2024-02-22T00:19:45Z")

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You’re the ones who are crazy!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3825 "2024-02-22T01:23:22Z")

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Thanks for the earworm, people.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3826 "2024-02-22T05:08:16Z")

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It doesn’t matter, he’ll probably get hit by a car anyway.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3827 "2024-02-22T10:33:50Z")

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And to nobody’s surprise, [this nonsense is from Republicans](https://www.yahoo.com/news/tennessee-governor-signs-bill-allowing-021427345.html).

> Tennessee governor signs bill allowing public officials to refuse to perform same-sex marriages
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> Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) signed a bill Wednesday allowing public officials to refuse to perform same-sex marriages.
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> State lawmakers approved Tennessee [House Bill 878](https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0878&GA=113) last week. The legislation states people “shall not be required to solemnize a marriage” if they refuse to doing so based on their “conscience or religious beliefs.” According to the Tennessee Legislature website, the governor signed the bill Wednesday.
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> Lee has not publicly commented on the bill yet per his social media and his office’s website.
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> The bill does not allow officials to deny marriage licenses to couples based on their beliefs but prevents officials from being required to solemnize a marriage. The State House first passed the bill in March 2023, but the State’s General Assembly booted it to 2024 for consideration.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3828 "2024-02-22T13:09:09Z")

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Apperently this was a week ago so maybe it was covered here, but I just ran across it yesterday.  
Ron DeSantis has been explaining that it’s actually everyone else that’s wrong and that this whole “Book Banning” thing is a hoax that he’s going to fix.  
[![](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2023/03/14/RWRTN5XXUFCCBMMGO7Y3FYSZVM.jpg?w=1024) ](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2023/03/14/RWRTN5XXUFCCBMMGO7Y3FYSZVM.jpg?w=1024)

There’s a million articles, but here’s his website.  
[https://www.flgov.com/2024/02/15/governor-ron-desantis-debunks-book-ban-hoax-calls-on-florida-legislature-to-amend-the-law-to-prevent-abuse-from-activists/](https://www.flgov.com/2024/02/15/governor-ron-desantis-debunks-book-ban-hoax-calls-on-florida-legislature-to-amend-the-law-to-prevent-abuse-from-activists/)

In reality, he’s clearly just angry that this is playing out exactly as expected with people following the rules (“abusing the rules” as he says) and reporting books that should be banned, like the bible.

At least the nice thing about gaslighting someone is that the rest of us can see through it. It just takes a maid or good friend to look at things from a different perspective to say ‘no, you’re not crazy, he’s fucking with you’.  
[![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/bhgwHQC7ixW5j-kcuomtH8Olcs4Z9BgRRsyWj7jimtpqw8s3iirAfR4N8NZB4u-P1kpZOa30P6LSmGOZq2uIf6KIVB-_FbNJeXgsQ05In1blOOLctw) ](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/bhgwHQC7ixW5j-kcuomtH8Olcs4Z9BgRRsyWj7jimtpqw8s3iirAfR4N8NZB4u-P1kpZOa30P6LSmGOZq2uIf6KIVB-_FbNJeXgsQ05In1blOOLctw)

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3829 "2024-02-22T13:19:35Z")

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I think I’m with Ron on this one

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> We also know that some people have abused this process in an effort to score cheap political points

This is 100% true. It’s incredibly true, as if the whole process is about scoring cheap political points.

He is also correct on this

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> Myth 1 The Florida Department of Education bans books.
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> Truth 1: The Department does not ban books. Each school district is responsible

Granted, he doesn’t follow up with “for banning books”, instead it’s corporate mumbo jumbo, but we get the idea.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3830 "2024-02-22T14:36:22Z")

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The maid was in on it, too.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3831 "2024-02-22T15:35:22Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> > Myth 1 The Florida Department of Education bans books.
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> > Truth 1: The Department does not ban books. Each school district is responsible
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> Granted, he doesn’t follow up with “for banning books”, instead it’s corporate mumbo jumbo, but we get the idea.

So he’s using the “Hitler himself never killed any Jews” defense. Nice!

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3832 "2024-02-22T15:57:06Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> The maid was in on it, too.

Was she? I haven’t watched it in a few years, but IIRC, the husband told her his wife was crazy and she didn’t have any reason to disbelieve him. Plus, weren’t they a bit flirty with each other? I thought any help from her was because she didn’t realize what was happening. In fact, wasn’t she the first one to confirm the lights are, in fact, dimming, and there are, in fact, footsteps?

But, again, I haven’t watched it a few years. Also, so we’re on the same page, I’m talking about the Ingrid Bergman version with Angela Lansbury as the maid.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3833 "2024-02-22T16:08:54Z")

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Oh yeah - she was definitely in on it and was sleeping with the husband.

Between this movie and The Manchurian Candidate, I have no trouble believing that Mrs. Fletcher was behind all the murders in Cabot Cove.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3834 "2024-02-22T18:42:07Z")

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Empty Greene rexed Libs of TikTok post about [HB4876 in Illinois.](https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=4876&GAID=17&GA=103&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=152735&SessionID=112)

> <https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1760384946990903524>
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> Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok

If you guessed “Libs of TikTok” aren’t really libs, you’re right!

> **[Libs of TikTok creator accused of inspiring school bomb threats named to...](https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/libs-tik-tok-bomb-threats-oklahoma-library-committee-rcna135369)**
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> Chaya Raichik, who runs the inflammatory Libs of TikTok social media account, was named an adviser to the state Education Department’s library committee.

> A far-right influencer who was accused of instigating [bomb threats](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/25/libsoftiktok-posts-school-bomb-threats-davis-tulsa/70676277007/) against a school library in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last year has been named an adviser to a state library committee, the head of the state Education Department announced Tuesday.

> Its content — which is often laced with bigoted rhetoric — generally singles out LGBTQ people, drag queens and their employers, and it criticizes them for promoting diversity, inclusion and equity efforts.
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> In addition to last year’s scare in Tulsa, posts by the account have preceded [several bomb threats](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/25/libsoftiktok-posts-school-bomb-threats-davis-tulsa/70676277007/) to schools, libraries and [hospitals](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/boston-childrens-hospital-warns-employees-far-right-online-harassment-rcna43376) across the country in recent years.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3835 "2024-02-22T19:23:05Z")

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OTOH, maybe that’s “libs” as in “women’s lib”? They do act like TERFs.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3836 "2024-02-23T12:12:23Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Even more importantly, if you get into an accident and they’re destroyed, will you be okay with a life in prison for each one lost?
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> If you (not you, specifically) were at an IVF clinic that happened to catch fire, would you save the 5 year old in the waiting room or, since life begins at conception, will you leave that kid to fend for themselves while you grab the dewar flask full of embryos.

This is why I am daring to hope that this “frozen embryo = child” thing will be the undoing of abortion bans.

Because, if you _really_ believe that women should be forced to bring embryos to term because personhood begins at fertilization, then _of course_ a frozen embryo is a person, with rights. How could it be otherwise?

But it’s also true that endowing frozen embryos with personhood entails a lot of wacky shit. It’s absolutely unworkable.

I know it might be considered naive to have hope here. After all, the GOP cares neither about consistency nor with how crazy a policy can get.

But ISTM that abortion restrictions are being pushed by the absolutists, by the demogogues. How are they going to be the people to tell the mob that they need to be nuanced on this issue or they’ll look like a laughing stock? I don’t see a way for them to apply the brakes.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3837 "2024-02-23T13:07:21Z")

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Right-wing social media has been yammering about companies leaving New York due to the $355 million judgement against Trump. Thing is, the only site Google News can find talking about this is _Townhall_.

> **[The Businesses Fleeing Corrupt New York Amid $355 Million Trump Verdict](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/02/22/the-businesses-fleeing-new-york-amid-trump-verdict-n2635568)**
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The same social media specifically references Remington moving, which really has nothing to do with Trump and has been in the works since November 2021.

> **[This small New York village made guns for 200 years. What happens when...](https://apnews.com/article/new-york-remington-gun-factory-closure-997f6312364f005e295202dc38c005a3)**
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> Residents of Ilion are bracing for Remington’s exit, ending an era that began when Eliphalet Remington forged his first rifle barrel nearby in 1816.

So take it all with a grain of salt.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3838 "2024-02-23T14:43:43Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> if you _really_ believe that women should be forced to bring embryos to term because personhood begins at fertilization,

Well, aren’t all the unfertilized eggs actually protential persons? Then, every month a woman commits murder.

Further, how many eggs does a woman have? If you kill her, then you are guilty of that many extra counts of murder. or maybe pre-murder.

And the next person that sings every sperm is sacred…you’re next in court, wanker!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/3839 "2024-02-23T14:55:23Z")

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Their viewpoint is that the dividing line between ‘person’ and ‘not-person’ to be conception. Unfertilized eggs don’t count. There’s at least some form of rational thought going on, even if it is of the “wait, the conclusion is so ridiculous, why do you still accept those premises?” variety.

That said, the whole darned thing is a deliberate slippery slope. There’s long been a extremist anti-abortion philosophy of full fetal personhood and a push by the legal thinkers on that side to bring about laws and legal decisions to that end.

The end of Roe vs Wade was one step along that slope, and pushing the idea that fertilized embryos can, in some cases, be considered children is yet another.

That’s been alluded to in various threads but there’s still a disconnect there when it comes to general public awareness.

ETA: Oh, and don’t forget, this is the same crowd that pushes the idea that you can ‘re-implant’ fetuses. Nutty as fruitcakes but serious as a heart attack

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Nutty as fruitcakes but serious as a heart attack

A fruitattack?

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