# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4281 "2024-03-17T21:31:11Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I hate to imagine what it smells like. 😝

[Armpits, ketchup, a butt, and makeup.](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-smells-kinzinger-armpits-ketchup-b2471229.html)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4282 "2024-03-17T21:47:40Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That’s what happens when you cut off contact.

Who said I cut off contact? I only knew him slightly for a couple months. We weren’t close.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4283 "2024-03-17T21:53:51Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> > Or mass _seppuku_.
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> Too foreign. Unless they start selling Trump branded knives. And T-shirts reading _Bloodbath & Beyond_.

I want to laugh, but I also want to cry.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4284 "2024-03-17T22:06:58Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> > [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > Too foreign. Unless they start selling Trump branded knives. And T-shirts reading _Bloodbath & Beyond_.
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> I think you’ve hit upon the Ultimate Grift:
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> > SHOW PRESIDENT TRUMP HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HIM IN YOUR LAST MOMENTS! ONLY $5,000 FOR A TRUMP-BRANDED KNIFE ($25,000 FOR AN AUTOGRAPH IN GENUINE SHARPIE), OR $2,500 FOR A “CUT ALONG THE DOTTED LINE” T-SHIRT!!! COME ON, WHAT GOOD IS MONEY GONNA DO YA ANYWAY???!!!???
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> (Probably wouldn’t hold a candle to actual copy.)

Make sure to remember President Trump in your will. He needs it more than your family.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4285 "2024-03-17T22:10:52Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Make sure to remember President Trump in your will. He needs it more than your family.

This is why Trump needs a church. People can just will him their estates.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4286 "2024-03-17T22:13:08Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Yeah that’s completely normal.
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> Can’t wait for the Republicans to come out and say he didn’t mean what he said.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> More likely, they will claim he didn’t even **say** what he said.

Well, kinda both. In context, Donald was talking about the auto industry:

> [@](#):
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> … “We’re gonna put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not gonna be able to sell those guys if I get elected,” Trump said at Saturday’s event while criticizing overseas manufacturing production.
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> “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath for the whole … that’s gonna be the least of it, it’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country, that’ll be the least of it.” …

The thing is, Trump has always talked in terms that both glorify violence and characterize the USA as “carnage” and such. He’s made several remarks about violent consequences if he loses an election, gets indicted, gets convicted, etc. etc.

So, would Trump be upset to learn that some believe he said the USA would be _A Bloodbath_ if he lost?

Obviously not.

> **[Trump, while addressing auto industry, says there will be 'bloodbath' if he...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-predicts-bloodbath-loses-2024-election-ramps-anti/story?id=108190653)**
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> Former President Donald Trump said at a rally Saturday night there would be a "bloodbath" if he doesn’t win 2024, when railing against the electric vehicle industry.

ETA: I heard and saw a fair amount of news coverage this morning: CNN, MSNBC, the networks, and PBS. And **not one person on one show** implied that Trump had been making a general statement about bloody consequences if he lost. They ALL included the context about the auto industry.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4287 "2024-03-17T22:36:10Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Donald was talking about the auto industry:
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> > [@](#):
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> > … “We’re gonna put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not gonna be able to sell those guys if I get elected,” Trump said at Saturday’s event while criticizing overseas manufacturing production.

Let’s forget about the “bloodbath” term for a minute. This right here is an amazingly stupid idea. A 100% tariff on all imported vehicles? 40% of the cars sold here are built elsewhere. Making 40% of the supply unsellable would cause the cost of domestic cars and used cars to skyrocket, trigger crushing shortages, and basically throw our entire large equipment supply chain into disarray.

And the GOP would blame Biden.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4288 "2024-03-17T22:39:36Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> … And the GOP would blame Biden.

That’s the beauty part!

But seriously: hasn’t that been the story of the US economy for decades, now? Republican Administrations wreck the economy, Democratic Administrations fix what was wrecked, and then Republicans waltz back into office with the blessing of voters who’ve never noticed what was going on.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4289 "2024-03-17T23:35:52Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> This is why Trump needs a church. People can just will him their estates.

I am quite confident the tax-free Church of Trump is just a matter of time.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4290 "2024-03-17T23:38:18Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Making 40% of the supply unsellable would cause the cost of domestic cars and used cars to skyrocket, trigger crushing shortages, and basically throw our entire large equipment supply chain into disarray.

The important thing is: How will Trump and Associates make money off this disarray? That’s the point of it.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4291 "2024-03-17T23:41:19Z")

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Not to mention the Chinese EV plants are in the planning (at best) phase right now. Highly unlikely they would come online before 2028…

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4292 "2024-03-18T00:05:49Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> ETA: I heard and saw a fair amount of news coverage this morning: CNN, MSNBC, the networks, and PBS. And **not one person on one show** implied that Trump had been making a general statement about bloody consequences if he lost. They ALL included the context about the auto industry.

Okay, so conceding for argument that the blood bath comments were in relation to the Auto industry and not a general statement.

The basic problem remains, statements such as this lend to the environment in which violent action occurs. I don’t have direct quotes in front of me I’m afraid, but I’m sure everyone remembers the speeches given by Trump and others on the morning of January 6th. This is a part of that exact same thread. And hyperbole lands differently with his supporters than with anyone else’s.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4293 "2024-03-18T00:40:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Well, to be fair, there were probably multiple reasons for the non-attendance:
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> - Family friendly? No hookers, no happy ending massage? No thanks.

Hey, this is Republicans. Let’s not make any assumptions, here.

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Okay, so conceding for argument that the blood bath comments were in relation to the Auto industry and not a general statement.
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> The basic problem remains, statements such as this lend to the environment in which violent action occurs.

Really, there are ten, no, a hundred thousand other ways he could have said that, and most of them do not hint at violence. He chose that particular phrasing because, well, he is a fucking asshole.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4295 "2024-03-18T06:25:13Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> He chose that particular phrasing because, well, he is a fucking asshole.

It’s more than just that.

Michael Cohen probably knows Trump better than anyone else who’s flipped on him, and he’s testified that Trump knows how to ask people to break the law for him without explicitly telling them to do anything illegal. When he says there’ll be a bloodbath if he isn’t reelected, he’s saying it in the same way as when he told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by”, or when he said of his 1/6 rally “be there - it will be wild!”, or when he told the people at that rally to “fight like hell or we won’t have a country anymore”, or when he said that if he was arrested there’d be “violence like you’ve never seen”.

It’s absolutely a call for the cultists to kill people in his name, and the cultists know it.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4296 "2024-03-18T07:36:06Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Okay, so conceding for argument that the blood bath comments were in relation to the Auto industry and not a general statement.

The thing is, even supposing that Trump was only talking about the auto industry, it’s not really much better. Instead of saying that there will be violence in the streets if Biden is elected, he’s saying that everybody who works in the auto industry, or any of its subsidiaries, or wants to buy a car, or knows anyone who does, will be screwed if Biden is elected. I’m not bothered by it, because I know Trump is full of shit. But if you’re inclined to believe him at all, then any kind of bloodbath, literal or metaphorical, is a chance you’re probably not willing to take.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4297 "2024-03-18T10:00:38Z")

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MAGA: “I love Trump, because he says what he means!“

Trump: “Bloodbath!”

MAGA: “That’s not what he meant!”

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4298 "2024-03-18T11:36:34Z")

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Where do we put “Pointless Republican Story of the Day”? GOP Senator Bill Cassidy says that Trump has said “dehumanizing” things about migrants, as well as voted to convict him. But will he vote for Trump? Of course. So what’s the point of criticizing him? Is he trying to sound as if he’s “reasonable”? “I’m very concerned about all of these chimps throwing shit. But I’m still going to let them pick it up!”

> **[Sen. Bill Cassidy: Presidential race is 'a sorry state of affairs'](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sen-bill-cassidy-presidential-race-sorry-state-affairs-rcna143665)**
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> Speaking to NBC News' "Meet the Press," GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy criticized Trump's "dehumanizing rhetoric" about undocumented migrants.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4299 "2024-03-18T13:21:13Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> Not to mention the Chinese EV plants are in the planning (at best) phase right now.

And they plan to make low-cost vehicles for the Mexican market. I’d bet that they probably don’t meet US standards for cars anyways, like most foreign built low-cost cars.

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Re: the retreat, it’s not as if they have not had it at Greenbrier before. But yes, it’s out away from any other off-resort activity and very inconvenient for a quick exit to the district in the case of those running primaries. Also the last time they did it there (2018) their train wrecked at a crossing on the way with one fatality in the impacted truck.

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