# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 239
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4761 "2024-04-10T03:00:53Z")
From linked article > “I wish that these people would talk to kind of anyone with a chemistry or pharmacology or toxicology background, because [they’re getting bad information](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1175726650/fentanyl-police-overdose-misinformation),” he said. What? Talk to medical experts before passing legislation? But that would interfere with our ability to pander to our uniformed constituents desire to find easily understood if incorrect solutions to their baseless fears regarding abortions, transgenderism, education and drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4762 "2024-04-10T03:09:48Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In a world where the police were sane? Sure. “Hey, officer, I found this baggie of powder in my buddy’s locker, and I’m worried it might be drugs. Could you have it tested? Meanwhile, in the real world… > ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4763 "2024-04-10T03:15:38Z")
Uniformed? Hey! Not all of us military types are part of the flat earther sphere of influence. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4764 "2024-04-10T03:25:08Z")
“uninformed” damn fat fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4765 "2024-04-10T03:57:59Z")
Yeah. I have that problem all the time with my cellphone. BTW, how’d you like that bit about “flat earther sphere”? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4766 "2024-04-10T11:30:23Z")
Arizona Supreme Court reverts state law regarding abortion to 1864 law, which almost totally bans the procedure. > **[Arizona can enforce an 1864 law criminalizing nearly all abortions, court says](https://apnews.com/article/arizona-abortion-restrictions-1864-9c68866d69dca38c728dd27b80592e8f?user_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru_AP&utm_campaign=Morning%20Wire_10%20Apr_2024&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers)** > > The Arizona Supreme Court says the state can enforce its long-dormant law making abortion illegal in all cases except when a mother’s life is at stake. Arizona didn’t become a state until 1912. ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4767 "2024-04-10T11:46:22Z")
Heather Cox Richardson had a really interesting (and infuriating) piece on that this morning: > **[April 9, 2024](https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-9-2024)** > > Yesterday, former president Trump released a video celebrating state control over abortion; today, a judicial decision in Arizona illuminated just what such state control means. With the federal recognition of the constitutional right to abortion... It looks at where this “law” came from, and all the other legal/moral things going on surrounding it. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4768 "2024-04-10T12:47:46Z")
[quote=“Railer13, post:4766, topic:986588”] Arizona didn’t become a state until 1912. And that was entirely too soon. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4769 "2024-04-10T13:22:50Z")
> [@saje](#): > > Heather Cox Richardson had a really interesting (and infuriating) piece on that this morning: I read that as well. Very enlightening, and maddening. To all Dopers: if you do not subscribe to the daily offerings by Heather Cox Richardson, you need to start immediately. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4770 "2024-04-10T15:05:54Z")
Also a law from before women had the right to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4771 "2024-04-10T18:35:42Z")
I can’t imagine they thought they’d get a good price. The whole is is low and creepy. Even Trump’s people refused them, which says something. > **[Florida woman sentenced to a month in prison for theft of Ashley Biden's diary](https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-woman-sentenced-month-prison-theft-ashley-bidens/story?id=109048171)** > > Aimee Harris pleaded guilty in 2022 to a conspiracy charge. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4772 "2024-04-10T18:57:34Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I can’t imagine they thought they’d get a good price. They each got $20k, that’s not nothing and probably a good chunk of change for someone crashing at a friend’s house. I’m unclear, however, if they only stole a diary or if it was the other items as well. The way this is worded, I’m not sure if they’re saying all these other items were also there or if they meant to imply that those items were stolen as well. > Biden had stored a handwritten journal containing highly personal entries, tax records, a digital storage card containing private family photographs and a cellphone, among other things, in a private residence in Delray Beach, Florida, where Harris was also staying. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4773 "2024-04-10T20:53:48Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Arizona Supreme Court reverts state law regarding abortion to 1864 law, which almost totally bans the procedure. > > [https://apnews.com/article/arizona-abortion-restrictions-1864-9c68866d69dca38c728dd27b80592e8f?user\_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a&utm\_medium=Morning\_Wire&utm\_source=Sailthru\_AP&utm\_campaign=Morning%20Wire\_10%20Apr\_2024&utm\_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers](https://apnews.com/article/arizona-abortion-restrictions-1864-9c68866d69dca38c728dd27b80592e8f?user_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru_AP&utm_campaign=Morning%20Wire_10%20Apr_2024&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers) > > Arizona didn’t become a state until 1912. But it’s okay because Donald says it will be “straightened out” very quickly: > [@](#): > > “It’ll be straightened out and as you know, it’s all about states’ rights,” the former president told supporters and journalists after landing in Atlanta for a fundraiser. “It’ll be straightened out, and I’m sure that the governor and everybody else are going to bring it back into reason and that’ll be taken care of, I think, very quickly.” From this word salad we are, apparently, meant to conclude that Trump Will Fix It----in some way entirely unspecified. States’ Rights means Arizona can impose upon its women laws as draconian as they can think of, and ALSO means that It Will Be Straightened Out. Somehow. (If Trump’s “just say anything” tactic actually makes him President again, the USA deserves everything it will get.) > **[Trump says Arizona's abortion ban goes too far while defending the...](https://apnews.com/article/trump-abortion-arizona-law-florida-ban-7cdd6d2e3c320a89ec7a7c037824e7cd)** > > Trump increasingly has been put on the defensive and urged Republicans to avoid supporting bans that are unpopular with many Americans. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4774 "2024-04-10T21:16:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > From this word salad we are, apparently, meant to conclude that Trump Will Fix It----in some way entirely unspecified. He desperately wants the issue to go away. It’s the same way he reacted to Covid. It, too, was going to hurt his re-election chances. He thought if he kept saying it would go away, be gone by Easter, etc. that it would. Obviously learned nothing from that experience. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4775 "2024-04-10T22:05:06Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Trump Will Fix It----in some way entirely unspecified. > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He desperately wants the issue to go away. But isn’t it funny how he doesn’t have anything to say about the red states that have banned abortion altogether? It’s as if he only cares about abortion rights in purple states. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4776 "2024-04-10T22:10:25Z")
He cared only about using the Republican talking point “State’s Rights”. The context could have been any goddamn thing. An abortion ban, a burning building, a ribbon cutting, a yadda yadda yadda. Republicans could have been responsible for bringing the situation about, or not. Whatever it is, grab a mic, say “State’s Rights”. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4777 "2024-04-11T01:13:34Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Also a law from before women had the right to vote. And a law written by a "[pursuer of nubile young females"](https://wapo.st/3TWUY8z): After a few years of marriage to a first wife, who divorced him, > His next wife was a girl whose name was believed to be Maria v. del Refugio, writes L. Boyd Finch, the author of the journal article. New Mexico’s delegate to Washington, Miguel Otero, was bothered by the union. He “declared that the bride was twelve years old,” Finch writes, “and that Jones had ‘abducted’ her.” After splitting from wife number 2, > He also landed upon his third wife, Caroline Stephens, who was 15 years old. Claude, by this time, was around 50. > > Ah, well. They were married for only a year, anyway, because in 1865, Finch writes, Jones “left Caroline. She never saw or heard from him again.” Wife number four he impregnated at age 14. He eventually had a fifth wife. He was notorious as a womanizer. And that, my friends, is the upholder of morality who wrote the Arizona law. [Link is to WashPost, supposedly a gift link] ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4778 "2024-04-11T01:38:35Z")
Y’all remember how today’s Republicans seem to love shouting how it was the Democrats who caused the Civil War? Ah, interesting bit that. Didn’t those Democrats of old say they were holding to the idea of State’s Rights? (Yeah, the right to hold people as property, but still.) Seems to me today’s Republicans would dearly love to see that little bit of American culture resurrected. (Mind you, we damn near have it in many places.) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4779 "2024-04-11T02:00:57Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > From this word salad we are, apparently, meant to conclude that Trump Will Fix It----in some way entirely unspecified. > > He desperately wants the issue to go away. It’s the same way he reacted to Covid. It, too, was going to hurt his re-election chances. As is his usual practice of saying his followers should do something without saying “hey, you, do this specific thing”, what I get from this: > [@The Donald](#): > > “It’ll be straightened out, and I’m sure that the governor and everybody else are going to bring it back into reason and that’ll be taken care of, I think, very quickly. It’s _“All of you, don’t make me look bad. I’m not telling you to change that to make me look good, but if you changed that you’d make me look good.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/4780 "2024-04-11T02:10:40Z")
About that… [https://www.meidastouch.com/news/arizona-gop-refuses-to-repeal-total-abortion-ban](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/arizona-gop-refuses-to-repeal-total-abortion-ban) > [@](#): > > Arizona GOP State Rep. Matt Gress had said after the announcement from the Arizona Supreme Court, “This decision cannot stand. I categorically reject rolling back the clock to a time when slavery was still legal and we could lock up women and doctors because of an abortion.” > > Despite this statement, Gress voted to uphold the abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=238) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=240)